Not sure that deciding to rebuild the club is considered to be a courageous decision. Every club makes similar football decisions. It’s not out of the ordinary.

What is ordinary is the rebuild itself. In a socialist competition, you are bound to find some good players, particularly if you have early picks in the draft. The simple fact for me is we haven’t finished above 11th during the rebuild and for most part have been non competitive. We haven’t developed a midfield and it appears we are about to sack our second coach. That is not a good situation. Hopefully, the review will uncover and address the underlying issues that have created this perpetual cycle of poor performance.

Every club rebuilds Every year they just don't announce it. One of the biggest times of the tear is draft and trade time.

What other clubs do that we don't is not announce it.

Terms like rebuild, restructure, review give people an accuse not to preform. It sends out a message that results don't matter.

All these announcements do is appease the supporter base so they still put their money in .

We gave our club 6 years not to perform we have just given them another 12 weeks by announcing the review.

Club is run by idiots

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I posted this earlier in this thread but I repeat: How do we know Sayers wasn't at every board meeting challenging every poor decision so far (including the appointment of Teague and recruiting busts) and being outvoted every time? No decisions from the board require unanimity - only those in the boardroom know Sayers’ true MO, and we should see it quickly with personnel changes on and off field.

Give the guy a chance to sweep the broom and make his mark, safe to say he's not Old Carlton and he doesn't appear to have any of its political alliances/conflicts.

Not sure what Sayers is waiting for.
Just do it.

it's easy to find out without guessing go through previous Annual Reports and you will see who has attended board meetings. Yes, Sayers has attended every single one.

Sos and the board are 2 different things

When sos was building , they knifed him

Or do you forget that

Board leadership examples
Appointment of malthouse , sacking of malthouse
Bringing dale Thomas to the club
Sacking Bolton and hiring one of his assistants as coach with no due diligence
Sos brings in weiters, curnow, McKay , Cunningham , Walsh, stocker , honey , Martin for nothing , kemp, and fixes our salary cap , then they sack him
And failed this playing group ,, that’s there legacy

And please don’t go
On about off field success ( they are afl
Protected club so financially they are always going to be ok )

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Re-read what I posted again - I never questioned his attendance. What does unanimity mean?

Everyone is stupid except him?

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Carlton supporter Messiah complex.

Potentially, but I'd say the more likely truth would be that some people (including those with complete control ie. El Presidente) are stupid, not including him

He saw out his contract and wasn't renewed.

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Do you know what uninamity means?

[WalshTeagueStyle]Sayers is highly rated, he's a young president, give him a chance to establish his own style[/WalshTeagueStyle]

Who" s not gonna give him a go ? Good luck to the bloke and i hope it all goes well . I just don't like the bloke , simple.Just the sorta bloke you take a dissing to and you don't know why. I"m allowed that . He"s been there for the last ten years of shit . So far , so good hey ! ...........and allegedly thumpin " Dan Andrews . What a faaarking here pickin" the weakest looking bloke in the room . I"m twenty years older than Andrews and i reckon i could beat him with one hand tied behind my back .,

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Walsh isn’t gonna give him a go, hence my reply directly to him

A lot of people “Allegedly” did a lot of things, allegedly

Problem with the board there aren't any footy people on it.

Go through past boards even Elliot's board had football people on it - Ken Hunter, Wes Lofts, Kevin Hall, Peter Kerr etc etc

He always had 4-5 members on the board that were Football people.

Not one football person on this board.

OK , i get you . Reckon Walsh will give him a go . Just Walsh is very critical . Some people are mildly critical ( hope thats me ) , some are highly critical . ..................anyhow , hope i'm wrong about Sayers and finally he's the man to turn the club around . Don't worry , i'll be the first to eat humble pie . As i say ,i wish him all the best .

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Where's Ross from Epping when you need him?...

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I've thought this for a while as well. Clearly the current board has fixed the off field e.g. debt cleared, redevelopment of PP, etc. but on field continues to lag.

We've had Judd on there but it's hard to tell if this was for the betterment of Judd or for the betterment of Carlton.

I wish Sayers the best and definitely want it to all go well, but he’s been on the board 10 years already, tbh I’m just expecting more of the same.

The club has reduced expectations so far for me, and I can’t see us being a genuine force until the whole board and any whiff of Pratt’s or Mathisons is gone completely.

Pretty much - I mean what is Mathieson doing taking care of our VFL team and list management? should be a football person. Get rid of him.

Campbell looks after people and culture... you have got to be kidding me.... get rid of him and replace him with a Coaching director

Jeannie Pratt? Enough - replace her with a football person