Don't lock it! It serves to educate the people on what's going on and have a record for history so in future people know what happened
. who did it and why

But ask yourselves if you can ever see us with enough revenue to be in the top five for football department spend? With a home ground that is bleeding us dry, with 45 000 members, with kids barracking for other teams, with a Board that has proven over many years to be incompetent. Let's face it, we aren't getting into that top bracket.

I'm one of the few who get your point Synbad - although if prompted I would suggest that there's not much more to tell the nay-sayers. I honestly think it's all been said.

This was asked to a powerhouse business person who could easily be president and bring much credibility, influence and leadership.
He said nobody will hop on board with this lot.
The only way it can happen is if they voluntarily step aside move to the sidelines allow a team with the correct skill set and know how to move in and they get behind that team wholeheartedly.
He then said that's not going to happen !

Farouh Farouh

But unless you are close to the inner sanctum, there isn't much evidence for these supporters to categorically say that the new team is an abject failure.

Unless you get a real alternative with a real plan - which by the sounds of it, these powerful business people do not want to bring forth for various reason - you continue to support the club as is.

So it's a bit unfair to be labeling others as not getting the point.

Sat down with the Pres and CEO for an hour a year ago. Have had discussions with a current and an ex-board member this year. That's enough evidence for me....But what's this 'new team' you speak of?



By 'support' did you mean financial support? If that's what you meant - then that's not really something I'm interested in doing.







Not really. Synbad's talking about a group from about 8 years ago. There are astute Carlton people out there, but their numbers are dwindling.

But everybody is expecting the club to get worse. That's why Mark is the man!
Marks not the man because he is a genius. He's the sacrificial goat.
They're hoping the club improves. But lets face it.. The clubs finances are about to be blown shy high!
They say if you talk to them that when were successful on the field the members will all be coming back.
But let me ask you when do you see serious success?
What game are we into a 66 name rebuild and what happens on the 67 th game.
The rebels don't have the answers either they're just another cog in the same wheel.
Just they might have a more savvy guy who might be s better front man to con members out of their money.
In the mean time let Mark do it... Till they can get a better handle on where were at.
There is no real challenge but everybody knows there is pressure on mark.. I reckon another 2.5 million dollar loss end a vote of no confidence will definitely be pushed forward.
The other thing that saves him as well as they know he's in more shit next year is he's only been on the job 18 months and he really needs longer to prove he's hopeless.

Don't get this rebel group mixed up with the person who said he isn't going to storm the citadel and nobody in their right mind will either..

They're not interested in making waves as I understand it..
It's either these people step aside or not..

The club is booby trapped for anybody that attempts that kind of stuff..

They will not take too kindly to anybody pushing them out.
They see themselves as the people who have saved the club

They do not see themselves as people who have gone as far as they can and should be passing the flame on.

People like fahour Sayers can have no real impact in the bubble

They try.. They're there to serve the club. Everybody is.. Just some love the life membership side of things more than asking themselves are they there for the right reasons?


There's an allergy to having an audit in the running of the football club from top to bottom.
They don't need it
.. They're going to fix it.
Yes improving is something every club has been doing.
Making ground on the leaders is the real marker

There won't be another flag in our lifetime AGRO. They're grooming the next generation to follow in the footsteps.

There won't be another flag in our lifetime AGRO. They're grooming the next generation to follow in the footsteps.

Sat down with the Pres and CEO for an hour a year ago. Have had discussions with a current and an ex-board member this year. That's enough evidence for me....But what's this 'new team' you speak of?



By 'support' did you mean financial support? If that's what you meant - then that's not really something I'm interested in doing.



Not really. Synbad's talking about a group from about 8 years ago. There are astute Carlton people out there, but their numbers are dwindling.

Hey fellas, you need a dose of the Dylan buckleys!

.......He is a pumped up young fella who screams blue...despite the shit taste in his mouth......he is pumped about Bolton, the new fellas, SOS....jumping out of his skin as pre- season starts ...reminds me of what football is all about


....much better than listening to sour supporters that feel disempowered!

What rubbish, inuendo and bulldust. Mark is not a puppet. He is responsible for his own performance. Stop with the conspiracy theories. No one is stopping a board challenge. There is a power vaccum. I wish there were powerful elites running the club