Sorry psych, i can see the reasoning myself but these pampered players need to grow a set to kahunas and realise that they have a gift and have clubs spend megas to kiss their arses and they expect their arses to be kissed a limitless bit more.
I wish they would get on with it, as you would too or stop wasting our time, money , and limitless postings on a site which is just their so we can vent our frustrations re the innactions of these retards.

OMG how does McLean still get a game. Geez I hope he is a late out and Holman comes in. PLEASE GOD!!!!!

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@ Trigger I understand your point and especially your frustration but I think some of peoples comments about Graham are a bit off the mark. Has been the most consistent performer at VFL level week in week out.

I can see the reasons he is not playing (even though I don't agree) but I fear some people on here are just making up BS rumours to justify a point.

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Did Collingwood players get away with worse under MM (if it's actually true)?

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The bs rumours are standard fare on this site so it should not shock you, but players like Graham need to show something other than your standard possession gathering attributes or he will rightly or wrongly be dubbed another Jordan doering, and we know how that turned out.

the final team is a total bulls*^t selection. if we dont have the talent in the 1's, and people in the 2's are playing well enough for selection, why not select them? what have we got to lose? McClean is a liability, sure he might be able to run out a game, but he does it slower than any person i have ever seen. Carrots disposal cost us valuable goals last week, why not bring in 2 young kids who might provide some spark and enthusiasm, if not for the team, then for the supporters?

finals are unreachable, give us something to look farward to, not just name kids as emergencies and leave them hanging while others dont warrant a spot. if we lose this game because we are outpaced or too lethargic or unenthused, i think my head might just explode

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Johnson, Bell, Menzel, Docherty, Casboult, Rowe, White.

Buckley, Graham, Cripps, McInnes, Watson & Lucas have played this year too.

Who hasn't played this year? Temay, Giles, Holman, Reynolds*, Wood*, Cachia, Sheehan*, Byrne*. None from that group give us something we don't already have (except maybe Giles, but he needs time and is injured anyway) or have me particularly excited by their talent levels. I expect Holman & Sheehan will get a taste before the season is over. Wood will get a game only if Warnock gets injured.

We are playing our best available players.

And playing kids that aren't going to be able to contribute isn't good for their development or for the team's improvement.

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exactly - Curnow and maclean??

bit like pagan coaching for reputation - whatever that means

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99% of the the players in the magoos look lethargic and un enthused so what next, I will tell you what, piss them off and start again.

and the other 1% give us hope. they are the ones who should get games. if this is Holman, play him

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If it is Holman okay, but from what I have seen, I may be wrong but he is a one trick pony unless he finds some other tricks he will not make it, mind you I hope he does. Actually I hope they all make the grade.
Somehow I doubt it will happen.We can only pray for a miracle.

So basically the guys getting a game have us near the bottom and the guys not playing are not worth a game. How can we go through 14 seasons and be heading back to the bottom. If we put names on a dart board or just picked the first big footy phantom draft we couldn't be worse off. Well the good news is i don't think Mick's going to want to coach a crap side for too long. I can just see us selling the farm for a few more injury hampered Daisy Thomas picks, and then losing what decent players we have because we pay too much for imports.

Their. They're. There.

Not sure Holman is ready yet, as for Graham, I have seen quite a few northern games, in those games i have seen, Graham has worked hard to get to the contest, made tackles, kicked a few goals, improved he's kicking from last year and has been in the best week in week out...
Most weeks he gathers 30 plus, yet curnow missed 8 weeks of footy then walks straight back in, I understand they are different type of players but please...
I believe mick has he's favourite players and Graham is not one of them. Let's see if Thomas gets dropped this year..
McLean is finished, give Graham a go and see if he can make it, if not then delist him but, he needs to be given an opportunity. Holman will get he's chance later on.
People saying players should earn their spot before handing out games, well look where we sit and certain players continue to get a free run, Graham has earned a chance, reward for effort...
Casboult better kick some goals, if not will he get dropped???
Does Warnock continue to battle on or does Wood deserve an opportunity???
McLean continues to play average footy at best yet he continues to get a game???
We are an average team, with average players getting games, give a kid an opportunity when he has worked hard, simple.
Let the rebuild begin and move average players on...
Reckon Temay will get a go before he is delisted????
Good luck Bell, i am sure you have earned your game this week... How was he's first game back last week???

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Although I've seen very, very little of Graham and Holman, it sounds like they're essentially competing for the same spots in the team currently held by Carrazzo and McLean. Now I know the latter 2 are out of form and out of favour here on TC, but just think of the impact of ripping out about 350 games experience has on out already shit midfield.

Judd, Murphy and Gibbs would more or less be up against it on their own. Having kids like Holman and Graham in the team, in the same week, puts enormous strain on an already struggling engine room. Not to mention it won't do any good for their development being immediately part of the midfield rotation and getting smashed as a couple of 19 year olds.

They'll play soon enough. And hopefully when they're ready and more importantly, the entire team is ready.

Just arrrived in Melbourne for the BIG game tomorrow.

I think Graham deserves a game and talk that he is a kid, implying he is underdeveloped, weak, a liability are far from the truth. He has a strong body for this level.

If he has had a bit of an issue with the drink then I guess MM is teaching him a lesson. If that's the right way to go, then good.
If Graham has apologised and has shown some control with his drink and a dsire to make the grade then Brock should not be holding Graham back.

Despiite Brock being one of our 'best' last year and saving hhis career, I wasn't iimpressed.
His possessions were avearge at best, missed easy goals in front and wasn't the tough clearance player people give him credit for. IMO he peels off the contest lookiing too link but he's so damn slow.

Last time Brock was in our best was in the NAB challenge against the Roos. I thought he just accumulated disposals and threw the ball on his boot blindly because he couldnt run fast enough to make space and steady with a disposal to advantage.

Ive been impressed with Brocks turnaround in form since that lucky goal which won us the game against Tigers last year, but not what he brings to the team.

Brock's lack of speed is a liability to CFC and his possessions dont hurt the opposition. Sorry Bluegirl 72, but I still feel the same way about Brock.

I have always been a fan of Carrazzos for what he has been able to achieve and he is a Blue boy since birth. Aside from the sentiments, and MM's accolades for hhim, I think Carrazzos pace and disposal has been a liability this year. Its allover for Carrots. He aint goiing to get faster. He'll be even slower next year as will Brock.

So glad Bell is back. Graham deserves his spot. Dont know about Holman, but the Saints game is the game we'd want to find oout about him.

Come on Bluebaggers give us a win!!!!!!

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The least we could be doing this year is establishing a competitive and formiidable defense.
The improvement with Rowe and white has been a revelation.
Hope o see them develop their running and liinking game to see a more rounded game (attack and defense)

Jamison Rowe White as the talls. I'm happy with that for 2014 if they can continue to improve.
I look forward to see how they work again against Saint Nick and his mates.

Yarran Tuohy and Simpson as the smalls, with Everitt and Hendo as the swingmmen now that Waite's career is oover.

A strong defense is a feather in the cap.

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whats holman done to DESERVE a game?

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No idea synbad, but what have half the senior players done to continue to deserve to get a game.