hmmm, yep, the Jewish folk were known for their inherent divot leaving, and general sloppiness. That's why they were kept out of prime Golf clubs for so long. Of course, these days, they are a whole lot tidier, and thus, more acceptable.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

Never met a bunch of negatives like this site has become. Particularly those who seem to think they have a greater right to express an opinion. Shame on you all.

Good luck to the YCP. I hope they go well.

As for me, I'm outa here. Just completely over the negativity too many of you have. I've been on this site since it's inception. It was a great place to come to and talk things everything Carlton. Not any more.

Perhaps this site should re-brand itself to more accurately reflect what it has become - BAGGING CARLTON.

Ciao.

I for one am truly sad to lose you Laguna. I think the limited posts you have added here, have been excellent value.
I know I get caught up in the cr@p sometimes, which I regret, but losing quality such as yourself really highlights what is happening here currently.

Hit Nail on Head.

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17 4 10

If we are positive can you stay????/

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...yes its far better to be positive and dishonest than to be negative...

The YCP must never be questioned in any negative way...

THis is the problem at the blues isn't it Mr S...

pay your membership, shut up and don't rock the boat - we are in our 150th year

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This Club needs a solid dose and massive injection of intellectual honesty if it is ever going to be a power again.

Let me be clear - Carlton on all indicators is a lower middle power now- comparable with St Kilda and North Melbourne.

If nothing changes radically in the next 2-3 years we will be Melbourne.

Every aspect of this club should be examined and questioned.
We should be vigilant not only what employees and officials of the club are doing but even these sub groups.
This club is on the nose... and iy has nothing to do with what is deemed as negative in here.
You actually dont need to be in TC to find negativity about our club.

By geezz Surrey youre a funny guy.... did you just deliver a eulogy to Laguna?
He left because he wants to be happy(ier) whatever...and is looking for a happy place to go to re Carlton........(Good luck in your quest Laguna).
hes not dead!!!

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The radical changes need to happen now if you are going to see any positive effect 2-3 years down the track. To achieve that the changes need to start at the very top and i'm afraid that nothing that's happening now indicates to me that there is any willingness to change in that area.

We need an injection of new people with different ideas in the management area and from what i am seeing the plan seems to be to just groom replacements from the same limited pool. The only thing that will change is the names, not the direction.

exactly... groomed by the people who brought us to here... to continue the said environment to the next generation

you wouldnt read about it.....

except on TC...... by Carlton...

crazy stuff....

so as supporters we need to know more about our next lot of leadership types.
After all thats part of the point i take it.... not that anybody knows for sure what the point of this group is....

just weird......

really weird...

and some people take offence... and call it negative???

get a life!!!..

were interested if these people are going to be driving things around the club.

were not flower mushrooms you know???

if youre going to treat us that way.. stop asking people for their money!!!

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Can't do that, Krusty is Jewish so some anti semite is going to come on and say only Jews are eligible.

Point is there will always be a pre condition of sorts to join a club. Isn't that the definition?

If your only interest is in following CFC become a member.


And again I am not a supporter of YCP.

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Personally, i have no problem with people setting up their own groups and having their membership criteria etc, although i will say that if you are going to have a club supported youth arm then it should be open to all young members.

What i do find objectionable is the club officially is prepared to solicit the ideas for the future direction of the club with a view to implementation of those ideas from such a closed group. They are not representative of the broader base of Club members and supporters.

Any "Think Tank" on that level needs to be much more broadly based.

Now Synbad you have just got very personal and subjective whereas I was trying to keep this on an objective level of debate.

Just what do you mean by "i reckon youre cut from the same cloth yourself" apart from the bad grammar and spelling.

As far as asking what will be beneficial to the CFC why don't you go to the CFC website under Coterie groups.

Young Carlton Professionals (YCP) is a vibrant, innovative organisation established to introduce like-minded professionals to an influential business and sporting network to stimulate thinking, build relationships and create business opportunities.

YCP is committed to connecting the next generation of business and professional leaders to the Carlton Football Club and bringing a strong sense of innovation and entrepreneurship to the Club to ensure its growth for the next 150 years.
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Pretty much says the same thing as the Carltonians which is far more expensive so more exclusive so why not the same hysteria with the Carltonians.

The main objection to the group appears to be the board is related to the previous generation of failures. I recognize that but this is guilt by association. If you look at the resumes of the board they are young movers and shakers so again I say if you have a better idea form your own group and align it with CFC.

I have supported you in previous posts by saying the current administration must go and there should be an independent review of all departments within the club but there seems to be overwhelming paranoia about YCP. If this group why not Carltonians especially, and to stretch a point Women of Carlton automatically defines half the population ineligible.

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the ycp wil be used to seperate and put space between ordinary members and the board

Because this is yet another group this time age and professional background.
It's a think tank based on age and job status .... Think tank that's very vague. Nobody has yet come forward to give us a run down on what they do.

I'm not into vague secretive selective groups orbiting the club.
It just reeks exactly what this club has a massive problem with.

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Just to set the record straight I am not anti fun.
But I do have a problem with a club that has no idea how to embrace it's community and falls for the only thing they know... Elite silver tails etc.
This is why we have forty five thousand members and a dying club.
Some people might see all this as harmless and others shouldn't get worked up by it.
I see this as more evidence if the oligarchical bubble losing contact with its grass roots.
We see all kinds of shitty initiatives at their level.. Nothing at grass roots. It's all excluded and the rabble.
This club is a ship of fools.

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Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience!!!

After Monday and Tuesday, even the calendar says W T F .........
Visit http://fromthemoshpit.com/

The worlds first Think Tank that has a web site with a click button "Submit Idea" on it...

The lower classes and inferior humans can submit IDEAS, ladies and gentlemen to the supreme intellectualls that comprise the executive branch of the THINK TANK

They will decide, with their superior internal genetic sequences whether these submitted ideas are worthy of consideration and fuirther development...

Yes ladies and gentlemen, we are in the presence of supreme intellectual giants and cerebral freaks of nature.

Not everyone can join this elite sublime collective....

Ideas can only emerge from the age group 20 to 45 and from those who are formally recognised as professionals....

This is why the YCP Think Tank accepts ideas from the inferior classes

WE ladies and gentlemen, have the honour of contributing to the Think Tank.....

for free

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Remember moshe (25), the very second that you chronologically breach the 45 year barrier, two mechanisms are automatically activated which can NEVER be stopped.

1. An exponential decay in IQ level.
2. A loss of the status of professionalism

These phenomena cannot be stopped moshe (25). They are a medical reality supported by the fundamentals of quantum mechanics and basic logic.

We are in the presence of the cream of the crop of supreme intellectual genetic freaks of nature...

We must submit IDEAS to these Think tank priests......did you know this moshie (25) ?

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I'd like to think that COCKS represents everyone on this site. Its pretty much all encompassing

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