Yes it is all Mick's fault
His only the first coach we have had since 2002 who has made us defend
Give me that any day than Ratten's glory boy down hill skiing

Yes it is all Mick's fault
His only the first coach we have had since 2002 who has made us defend
Give me that any day than Ratten's glory boy down hill skiing
Remember half this forum said our 2012 was due to injuries, well our current results prove that it wasn't and we are not losing by 10 goals
Is Mick outdated?, maybe he needs some young coaches around him but if you think this group can play the Hawthorn precision kicking game you are dreaming
I will take Mick's ego any day, at least he is honest about his playing list and turned over 25% of it quickly. And he is our best recruiter. It his personal touch to get Everitt across the line
Mick's doing all the heavy lifting that should have been done by Ratten, Hughes, Kernahan and Swan.
I get a sense if we stick with him for 4 or 5 years, he will have fixed the list and taught the young kids the hardness and discipline required
He is worth his million, the next coach should have a great launching pad

Another positive - conclusive proof We got rid of the right ruckmen

Mick has said that Recruiters are just as if not more important than a Coach at a Club.
The fact that Mick has only been at Carlton for just over a year, and Wayne Hughes is now gone (after being around the Club for 9 YEARS prior to Mick) says exactly what he thought of him.

To suggest we're somehow reprogramming players is a copout. You dont "undo" a supposed unsustainable style of play by teaching another unsuccessful method.
Have a look at the way the successful sides have played the game the past 3 years. Retaining possession. Controlling the uncontested ball and limiting turnovers.
Hawthorn won the flag last year and they're evolving that gamestyle already. They understand what worked last year wont work this year. Yet we're trying to play wiith a gamestyle that hasnt had success for 4 years.

The "shootout style" may not bring the ultimate success (which is debatable) but it will win us more games than the antiquated rubbish we played in the first half. Even more revolutionary, lets try playing a style which is innovative instead of reacting or replicating. Nah, thats too hard obviously. Clarkson may be a flog but at least he's ahead of the game, Not living in the past like us.

Best thing Hampson did last night was smash Grigg.

Say it slowly and then puke:

Dangerfield
Darling
Fyfe

And THAT folks is why we're flowered.

Tonight showed how [REDACTED] the MC is - Buckley should have played last week. As should casboult.

Not too surprising that we looked shit when we bombed it long and significantly better when we run/spread/retain possession - malthouse needs to change his game plan to accommodate the players we have.

Robbo/curnow/bell/mclean/ellard should not all be in the same team - pick 2 of them at most and bring in the likes of graham, cripps, holman, arm field etc

YOu have to be joking.

Warnock belongs in the 1980s he is a lampost.

I thought Hampson kept them in it, and without him, we would have won.

Big mistake to let him go, huge, Warnock is a crab

..I thought hammer was better than knockers as well.. ..knockers didn't tap to adv as well as hammer did, and hammer was very good in this skill last week too (depressingly good actually).. ..he also got involved more around the ground, and is of some use when not in the ruck.. ..knockers does nada after the tap and ball leaves the stoppage area, and you may as well rest him on the bench cos he is a liability anywhere else outside ruck..

Agree with most of that Rhino.

Ellard might stay, but its only until someone else is ready. Great heart, great tackler but too slow, too small, not damaging enough by foot and just doesn't win enough of the ball.

Monfries had 20 touches last week, so whilst stats aren't everything I wouldn't call it SFA. Touhy stays, purely for the fact that others need to go first.

Rowe, Robinson, Ellard, Mclean and Bell will all eventually go.

Bell has fans, but if we are honest he isn't overly quick, is a poor kick, not great awareness, lacks football smarts and is fumbly and poor in close. Gut feel is he's the kind if guy that at 25 or 26 we'll still be referring to him as "raw, and something to work with". Hope I'm wrong.

A lot of talk about the bomb long game plan. Whilst, I'm not necessarily disagreeing that it doesn't work, I'm not convinced that with this group an alternative would be any more successful especially if it involved keeping hold of the ball through precise possession and using the corridor to attack. So many poor users and dumb decision makers.

Whilst I'm not great raps for either, one of Casboult or Watson must play purely if its just for structural purposes, ie keeping Henderson back and playing Watson as the 3rd tall, playing Cas releasing Waite, and then playing just the on ruckman etc.

As has been said the positives were Bucks, Yarran, Menzel. Thought Murphy was good but needs some help. Everitt looked completely lost until given the job on Deledio, might be better suited with a role rather than a 'floater'.

Cripps, Docherty, Holman, Graham, Giles will all see some game time this year, but cant be expected to make the difference.

Team will benefit short term with Walker and Judd returning, as well as Thomas and Henderson getting stronger.

Sam Rowe - On Sydney's Rookie list in the mid 00s, gets delisted, but a few years after that, we pick him up with a 2nd Rounder #hughesmasterstroke

Now, for those kids playing at home, this is a perfect example of why you should research what people say before swallowing their nonsense.
The coach who has made us defend is conceding more points per game than we did in the previous 3 years before he came. In fact, last year we conceded about 20% more points per game than in 2011 (the years of the "down hill skiing glory boys)
Even better, after 2 games we're averaging 109 points per game against in 2014 which is in excess of a 40% increase on 2011!

It's quite remarkable.

He sulked on the bench and looked pretty shitty. Body language wise it looked like murphy and mclean had a few words at end of first half

We are a loooooooooong off