SUNDAY EF1: Richmond v Carlton (pre-match discussion)

Cazzesman · **Posted:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 6:56 pm

The Duke wrote:

DLC wrote:

Menzel should definitely play. Smart footballer with great skills and the right attitude (competitive animal). I think he will thrive on the big stage just like his brother. Bigger bodies are not an issue he played seniors for Centrals in the SANFL.

With the greatest of respect for the SANFL comp, it isn't a patch on EF day at the G in front of 85,000 people.

Stats prove beyond doubt that the more mature side wins 74% of the time. Playing a 19 year old in place of a 25-28 year old will greatly reduce our chance of winning. Richmond will go in significantly more experienced than us if we play him above stronger body. My point is that his time will come if he doesn't get a game this week.

But if he plays and we win I'll be absolutely wrapt.

93 GF.

Regards Cazzesman

bondiblue · **Posted:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 7:29 pm

Judd is a must.

When someone has to lift it is Judd.
Last week Murphy lifted but it wasnt Judd like.
Having Judd and Murphy in the 4th Qtr against the Tigers in a close one will be a great help.

JUDD

sandramd1967 · **Joined:** Fri Dec 16, 2011 7:27 am **Posts:** 308

Humpers wrote:

blueboy23 wrote:

So if judd, McLean and Scotland come in,
who goes out??
Ellard would be one, hope menzel stays in..
Maybe casboult??

If Judd, McLean and Scotland came in I'd drop Ellard, Casboult and Bell.

bell was very good last 2 weeks believe it's better to have 100% player than a 70% mclean or Jude etc

Arnhem blues · **Posted:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 8:39 pm

Keep duigan in forward or sub (the new wiggins?)
judd for ellard if fit
Maclean for Bell if fit
scotland for......not sure ...still find it hard to measure Warnock's usefulness at the tap versus his lack of help around the ground.. if Kruze can negate the tiges in the ruck I would drop warnock.

Springsteen · **Joined:** Thu Mar 22, 2007 8:08 pm **Posts:** 813

i got tics in camberwell., got there at 8.30 and was served by 11.30 so not too bad considering just 1 terminal. that is crazy they give us 4 hours only . yep it used to be all day, then they have the cheek to say freo were given 4000 tics but 2000 returned,. well they were returned cos the people couldt get the tics by 1.00pm and missed out

teknodeejay · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 2:30 pm **Posts:** 2897

If you want to drop Menzel watch him come in to lay a good bump on Kane Cornes (after the Bell goal) to give Gibbs free run to deliver to Waite.

The boy has the right attitude.

moshe25 · **Joined:** Wed May 11, 2005 1:23 am **Posts:** 11671

sandramd1967 wrote:

Humpers wrote:

blueboy23 wrote:

So if judd, McLean and Scotland come in,
who goes out??
Ellard would be one, hope menzel stays in..
Maybe casboult??

If Judd, McLean and Scotland came in I'd drop Ellard, Casboult and Bell.

bell was very good last 2 weeks believe it's better to have 100% player than a 70% mclean or Jude etc

A 70% Jude helped win the GF last year.

Michael Jezz · **Joined:** Mon Jul 09, 2007 4:52 pm **Posts:** 2044

A final is worth 10 games of experience. Bell is born to play finals and Menzel looks the best draftee in 10 years. You play them

AGRO · **Posted:** Mon Sep 02, 2013 11:34 pm

Michael Jezz wrote:

A final is worth 10 games of experience. Bell is born to play finals and Menzel looks the best draftee in 10 years. You play them

So Marcus Davies has an extra 27 games experience on his current total of 17. :wink:

MPH78 · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:18 am

The Caro love has now ceased.

'Richmond might not of beaten Carlton much recently but they tend to beat them in finals' she said on FC tonight.

@#$%&! off Caro you stupid old bag :lol:

camel · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:27 am

Hammertime22 wrote:

Menzel dropped???
Watch the last quarter.
lets get some finals experience into this future star

He's all class.

Gab · **Joined:** Mon Jun 24, 2013 11:42 pm **Posts:** 283

MPH78 wrote:

The Caro love has now ceased.

'Richmond might not of beaten Carlton much recently but they tend to beat them in finals' she said on FC tonight.

@#$%&! off Caro you stupid old bag :lol:

I saw that lol.

Just wish i could have pointed out to her that Richmond and Carlton have played in a final ONCE in the past 30 years, i'd tend to put more weight on the recent performances than the finals record where 10 of Richmond's victories against us were in finals held between 1910 and 1969.

AGRO · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 12:40 am

Gab wrote:

MPH78 wrote:

The Caro love has now ceased.

'Richmond might not of beaten Carlton much recently but they tend to beat them in finals' she said on FC tonight.

@#$%&! off Caro you stupid old bag :lol:

I saw that lol.

Just wish i could have pointed out to her that Richmond and Carlton have played in a final ONCE in the past 30 years, i'd tend to put more weight on the recent performances than the finals record where 10 of Richmond's victories against us were in finals held between 1910 and 1969.

I wouldn't count the 1973 Grand Final either. :wink:

The_Wookie · **Joined:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:52 am **Posts:** 1197

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Donstuie · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:34 am

Cazzesman wrote:

The Duke wrote:

DLC wrote:

Menzel should definitely play. Smart footballer with great skills and the right attitude (competitive animal). I think he will thrive on the big stage just like his brother. Bigger bodies are not an issue he played seniors for Centrals in the SANFL.

With the greatest of respect for the SANFL comp, it isn't a patch on EF day at the G in front of 85,000 people.

Stats prove beyond doubt that the more mature side wins 74% of the time. Playing a 19 year old in place of a 25-28 year old will greatly reduce our chance of winning. Richmond will go in significantly more experienced than us if we play him above stronger body. My point is that his time will come if he doesn't get a game this week.

But if he plays and we win I'll be absolutely wrapt.

93 GF.*

Regards Cazzesman

EFA

The_Wookie · **Joined:** Fri Mar 23, 2012 6:52 am **Posts:** 1197

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SurreyBlue · **Joined:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:32 am **Posts:** 10486

Richmond should be talking themselves up.
They have earnt the right to go in favourites against a side that got in by default.
It's up to the boys to win the respect this week by beating them.
Lose this and they will crow on how we really didn't deserve to be there, etc....
We need to win this. Nothing else matters now.
I have to admit, I'm not confident after watching us over the past 2 weeks.

Synbad · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:37 am

id only make one change
out casboult
in lucas on bench

please no scotland.. judd etc unless theyre 100 % fit.....

judd cant be ... so i woudnt play him.. if scotland IS 100% for ellard.

The Duke · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:40 am

The_Wookie wrote:

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second half of this talks selection
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Thanks Wookie :beer:

.

God I love Mick :smoking:

. So good to hear a footy philosopher at our club again.

Big Kahuna Boot · **Posted:** Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:54 am

Arnhem blues wrote:

Keep duigan in forward or sub (the new wiggins?)
judd for ellard if fit
Maclean for Bell if fit
scotland for......not sure ...still find it hard to measure Warnock's usefulness at the tap versus his lack of help around the ground.. if Kruze can negate the tiges in the ruck I would drop warnock.

..hard to tell regarding Juddy, cos we don't really know the exact injury or the extent of it [do we??].. ..if he's fit [IF], then you play him.. ..and play him as the prime inside mid, cos these days his best is still inside the bubble and it likewise forces the opposition to have another player to worry about.. ..the same applies for McLean, but he needs to be fully right to go, even more'so than Juddy cos if he's a bit off his fitness it shows up..

..will want runners..

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