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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:23 pm 
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I fear with Casboult that many here are trying to polish a James Hird

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 5:39 pm 
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BV i can ony look at efficient output..... he showed very little return for his most contested marks for the game.
thats what i look at.
some of his decisions were horrendous.
I also reckon that the tigers were not too disatisfied with him having the ball.

And i thought he didnt work hard enough.
Casboult played second fiddle on the night- roles reversed and i think the outcome would have been similar .
Hampson isnt a key forward....

The proof will be in the pudding.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 6:08 pm 
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Murphy was trying to ensure he didn't go into his back, watch the replay again...his crime was not to hold the tackle which was disappointing agreed

Yeah, I thought watching the replay Thursday, that he was trying to turn him; a shrug of the shoulder/arm and unfortunately the tackle was broken

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 7:40 pm 
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Is there another club in the comp` that even comes close to the amount of reverse decisions that we have had? I just never see it in other games.
I reckon it started with Fitzy` in the Neal Daniher game at PP in 81` and has gone on ever since. And while on the umpires, don`t they just love the team that`s on a roll.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 9:03 pm 
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Surprised Lucas isn't get much positive feedback. I thought he looked alright last night. This might be damning with faint praise, but he looked a hundred times better than he has in the VFL over the last couple of years. I reckon he is coming along nicely.

Agree. Especially in the first half when he was deep in the backline helping out as a tonne of ball arrived down there. I thought he took on a lot of responsibility. Might be mick's new 'Daisy' project.


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PostPosted: Sat Mar 30, 2013 10:48 pm 
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I don't get to many matches as I am from Sydney but went down for this one and make the following observations:

1. Whoever mentioned the high amount of Richmond supporters at the game, I felt the same as well. Based on memberships they are at the moment they are a more highly supported club than us. Given how poor their on field performance has been, I wonder what they are doing right in other areas to get the level of support they have.

2. I noticed on occasions Richmond were able to clear the ball out of defence from a behind quite easily without evidence of a 'press' or pressure. Not sure why this was allowed to happen. Didn't notice this however in the latter stages of the game.

3. I thought it was encouraging Hampson was able to hang on to some marks. However if he is going to play forward he needs to gain confidence in his kicking, and not try and pass the ball off (unsuccessfully) when he is in a position to take a shot. He let the team down doing this.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 7:48 am 
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BV i can ony look at efficient output..... he showed very little return for his most contested marks for the game.
thats what i look at.
some of his decisions were horrendous.
I also reckon that the tigers were not too disatisfied with him having the ball.

And i thought he didnt work hard enough.
Casboult played second fiddle on the night- roles reversed and i think the outcome would have been similar .
Hampson isnt a key forward....

The proof will be in the pudding.


Can you point out his horrendous decisions for us? He missed set shots from 45 out on a 45 degree angle. Big deal. He was otherwise sensational. His game sense has improved out of sight.

He worked his arse off.

In the absence of Waite he is clearly our best option and is coming along just fine.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:50 am 
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windows wrote:
Synbad wrote:
BV i can ony look at efficient output..... he showed very little return for his most contested marks for the game.
thats what i look at.
some of his decisions were horrendous.
I also reckon that the tigers were not too disatisfied with him having the ball.

And i thought he didnt work hard enough.
Casboult played second fiddle on the night- roles reversed and i think the outcome would have been similar .
Hampson isnt a key forward....

The proof will be in the pudding.


Can you point out his horrendous decisions for us? He missed set shots from 45 out on a 45 degree angle. Big deal. He was otherwise sensational. His game sense has improved out of sight.

He worked his arse off.

In the absence of Waite he is clearly our best option and is coming along just fine.

his kick across the ground that went backwards and a mile away from any player?
and he made similar mistaes in the last NAB cup game.
Sensational??? :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:10 am 
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The thing that disappoints me most about Casboult is how little pressure he applies to the backman when the ball is not kicked to his advantage. He cannot force a spill unless the ball is kicked straight to him. Merrett showed up his lack of bodywork in the NAB final. It continued Thurs. Sam Rowe provides a much better contest.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:35 am 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
The thing that disappoints me most about Casboult is how little pressure he applies to the backman when the ball is not kicked to his advantage. He cannot force a spill unless the ball is kicked straight to him. Merrett showed up his lack of bodywork in the NAB final. It continued Thurs. Sam Rowe provides a much better contest.


I love Levi...but I have also noticed this and agree.....surely he can back into defenders when the ball is going too high. Happened a few times.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:00 pm 
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Needs to be dropped because of one mistake.... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thankfully some within this kindergarden don't make these decisions. :thumbsup:
Lucas will not get any recognition because within TC he is soft and turns the ball over..... :razz: Nothing like Camporeale either. :banghead:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 1:48 pm 
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buzzaaaah wrote:
The thing that disappoints me most about Casboult is how little pressure he applies to the backman when the ball is not kicked to his advantage. He cannot force a spill unless the ball is kicked straight to him. Merrett showed up his lack of bodywork in the NAB final. It continued Thurs. Sam Rowe provides a much better contest.

I see what you are talking about as two slightly separate things.
Levi is a big unit whose athleticism has developed a heap in less then 2 years - so he is getting better at recovering when out of position, although clearly not there yet. He did enough to spoil Maric in the goalsquare that got us a goal...
In the last few weeks his opponents have been giving him a small nudge as he is preparing to run/jump at the ball and it's just enough to unbalance him. I'm confident that he can learn to overcome this.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 2:08 pm 
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Blue Vain wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Casboult is over 5 ft 5 ....
Not sure you can play Casboult and Hammer in the same side.

They both dont stay in the contest for long enough.... and their kicking is woeful


True.
But Hampson made a big contribution Thursday night. More contested marks than anyone else on the ground. Plenty of 1 percenters. Created plenty of crumbs. Gave goals away. Blocked for the smalls to get goals.
Casboult struggled as a forward but he did work hard to protect space.
Hammer was far more valuable however.


Totally agree. Hampson for me was one of only a few positives I took out of the game. Can't recall the last time a Carlton forward took more than 4 contested marks. Yes agree poor conversion rate and a couple of errors of judgement but in comparison to last year, his contested marking has improved out of sight. Has the height and leap to trouble defenders with his outstretched arms. Agree he is not a natural forward but in my opinion can play an important role up forward to take some of the heat from our key forwards. His kicking action looks a bit awkward. Needs to loosen up

What concerned me the most about our forward line was the ease in which Richmond were able to run the ball out of defence. It was criminal.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 3:34 pm 
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It's simple, we didn't lay enough tackles; we were not ferocious enough at the contest. 49 tackles is piss weak. In the last game against Richmond we laid 95.

If you do not continue to pressure the ball carrier they will always feel they have time and space.

Far too many midfielders with 0-2 tackles.

Not @#$%&! good enough.

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 5:07 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Needs to be dropped because of one mistake.... :clap: :clap: :clap:
Thankfully some within this kindergarden don't make these decisions. :thumbsup:
Lucas will not get any recognition because within TC he is soft and turns the ball over..... :razz: Nothing like Camporeale either. :banghead:

Campo was a star player for a number of years I hope he plays as well as him

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:15 pm 
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limestone wrote:
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For all the bluster of the Richmond supporters, they shouldn't take too much out of this. The relief on their coach's face at the siren was more like the true story. OK, they took the points and OK, we nearly snatched one we shouldn't have won but I don't think either team would be counting on top six on tonight's performance.
My issue is that with a full list apart from Waite and Scotland, they picked the side they did. I was as surprised as most to see Bootsma in the team after playing one NAB game. I thought Laidler might get a late call up and I have vented my spleen over the non-selection of Bell elsewhere.
The danger as I see it is to think we almost won and therefore to leave the team alone. Robbo will go for Bell, I suppose and if Yarran gets rubbed out (shouldn't) maybe Laidler would come in and Walks more forward but that would be papering over the cracks. The real issue is the lack of two good KP, one at each end. That problem isn't going to disappear. Levi should get another game and Hampson had an off night kicking for goal but Henderson looks better than both of them as an option but I prefer him down back. Waite is the key when fit but goodness knows when that will be.
Garlett had a good game tonight.
Gibbs may have played his best quarter for us ever.
Judd was almost Judd-like.
Walker got a few kicks on his left side and broke the lines a couple of times but should be forward.
Kreuzer had a good game and held a few marks but I think Maric shaded him on the night.
Murphy was patchy.
Simmo was awful as usual in front of goal.
Lucas did OK but nothing more.
The rest of them were pretty well ordinary all night apart from flashing in and out.

All in all, I can't believe we got so close.


sadly, or is that happily, I was oblivious to all this as I watched "counting crows" at bluesfest at Byron and only heard the last ten minutes driving back to surfers. should I watch the replay?



Nah, go listen to August and Everything After instead, much better.

Did they play "Raining in Baltimore"? My favourite song


don't know - i'll ask jane as she listens more closely than me.
but is has been raining in Byron and surfers today though

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 8:47 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:02 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
windows wrote:
Synbad wrote:
BV i can ony look at efficient output..... he showed very little return for his most contested marks for the game.
thats what i look at.
some of his decisions were horrendous.
I also reckon that the tigers were not too disatisfied with him having the ball.

And i thought he didnt work hard enough.
Casboult played second fiddle on the night- roles reversed and i think the outcome would have been similar .
Hampson isnt a key forward....

The proof will be in the pudding.


Can you point out his horrendous decisions for us? He missed set shots from 45 out on a 45 degree angle. Big deal. He was otherwise sensational. His game sense has improved out of sight.

He worked his arse off.

In the absence of Waite he is clearly our best option and is coming along just fine.

his kick across the ground that went backwards and a mile away from any player?
and he made similar mistaes in the last NAB cup game.
Sensational??? :lol:


The one you're making up you mean? Didnt happen.want to make up another reason to bag him?

Want to credit his handball to Gibbs for a goal? His tap to Carrots for a near miss? His double effort follow up to Judd for a snap in the third? His handball forward to Armfield that resulted in a shot on goal? His double effort in the forward line in the last that trapped the ball in - which then went on to a Jeffy goal? He was out marked once for the game, despite being double teamed many times. Ie: he kept bringing the ball to ground or he marked it himself.

Wonder how Yarran swooped on to a loose ball in the last? Hammo brought it to ground. TWICE. Kicked poorly to him both times but he fought back to cause a spill. Last time Gibbs kicked long to a two on one. Hammo fought back and spoiled. Jeffy, Chris. Point.

You'd have sung his praises had you watched it with any semblance of football understanding.


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:05 pm 
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Saw Yazz's effort again today.....gee Brock was in a LOT of space :cry:


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PostPosted: Sun Mar 31, 2013 9:19 pm 
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MIL wrote:
Saw Yazz's effort again today.....gee Brock was in a LOT of space :cry:

That should've been the option....

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