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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:48 pm 
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SEN had a rugby player saying the tackle would be 4-6 weeks.. The HeraldSun had a UFC fighter talking about the sever nature that type of hold could cause

To balance the argument I spoke with a soccer player who agreed that since Adams was touching the ball with his arm, so we should have had a free kick go our way

Not convinced I spoke with an Ice Hockey player who agreed that Judd should have received a free kick as Adams was laying on the puck

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:53 pm 
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North said after the game on Friday night that the guy had a crook shoulder and that he was booked in at season's end to have a complete shoulder reconstruction.

I hope Carlton's got hold of that audio grab.

When Barassi was playing; his shoulder would often pop out during a game; and the trainer would push it back in again; and Barassi would keep playing as if nothing happened.

It doesn't take that much to dislocate a shoulder; especially if the joint is dicey to start with.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:54 pm 
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Whatever he gets he will get.
Was it potentially very serious? Yes anybody that knows abit about holds and submission holds will tell you it was potentially serious/
Was it hard on the eye? Yes
Did he have to do it? No


We dont need to try to defend every stupid thing we do.

Its better to move on and try to get ourselves to the next level... And that is focussed and switched on to be a power house.
There was nothing in a chickenwing that is football.. or discipline or an example of success.

Its just reeks unsavouriness and stupidity!!!!

He should cop his wack and it should focus us on where were at.. what we have.. and what we must do.

End of story

This persecuted mentality is really now StKildaesque in proportions

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 6:57 pm 
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Warby wrote:
North said after the game on Friday night that the guy had a crook shoulder and that he was booked in at season's end to have a complete shoulder reconstruction.

I hope Carlton's got hold of that audio grab.

When Barassi was playing; his shoulder would often pop out during a game; and the trainer would push it back in again; and Barassi would keep playing as if nothing happened.

It doesn't take that much to dislocate a shoulder; especially if the joint is dicey to start with.

Was anyone chickenwinginging him at the time???

What would happen if someone did that to Juddy??/... not in the play... but while he was on the ground... someone searched for Juddys arm and put a hold on it which potentially injured his shoulders???

Ive never heard such a bunch of cry babies....

what he did was ridiculous on the footy field....

He should have to take it like a man... and we dont have to defend someone from the sidelines for being an idiot.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:01 pm 
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Announce it now. Judd out for 3 -4 with general soreness.

He is in good form so it is a shame he will get rubbed out but not the end of the world. I will miss watching him play though.

Could have some big ins in a month. Kruezer, Simmo, Waite, Walker and Judd. All back for the same game would be fun to see.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:05 pm 
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Announce it now. Judd out for 3 -4 with general soreness.

He is in good form so it is a shame he will get rubbed out but not the end of the world. I will miss watching him play though.

Could have some big ins in a month. Kruezer, Simmo, Waite, Walker and Judd. All back for the same game would be fun to see.


This is one time i like your positivity club :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:07 pm 
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Not defending everything he does, but still can't see what rule he broke . The play was still alive as the umpire hadn't whistle the play dead.

I have actually worried about players getting injured due to the umpires tendency to allow play to run for way too long . In this case people are saying that Judd could see that he player wasn't going anywhere so he wasn't needed 3rd man in.. I thought we were told to play to the whistle as juniors...Are the players meant to adjudicate on when a play is finished.. Funny that, I thought the umpires were there to do that..

I expect Judd to go due to the hyperbole, but we have quite a few avenues to pursue to get Judd off..


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:09 pm 
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re: straight to tribunal. He can still plead guilty once it gets there can't he - this way he just gets a chance to plead his case, whatever that may be, before they pass any penalty and he gets to put the whole incident in 'perspective'. Like the old days.

If they had offered him a penalty off the bat from MRP he would have had to either plead guilty and get the discount with no chance to explain the 'perspective' or challenge it.

This is what i am also confused with. It has been reported that he cant plead guilty and get a reduced sentence. I have no idea why. Doesnt seem right, the reason given for going straight to the tribunal is because it doesnt fit any of the boxes, so why is denied the chance to plead guilty?
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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:17 pm 
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Not defending everything he does, but still can't see what rule he broke . The play was still alive as the umpire hadn't whistle the play dead.

I have actually worried about players getting injured due to the umpires tendency to allow play to run for way too long . In this case people are saying that Judd could see that he player wasn't going anywhere so he wasn't needed 3rd man in.. I thought we were told to play to the whistle as juniors...Are the players meant to adjudicate on when a play is finished.. Funny that, I thought the umpires were there to do that..

I expect Judd to go due to the hyperbole, but we have quite a few avenues to pursue to get Judd off..

Sure lets appeal a chicken wing on the footy field...Does the Privy council exist still???

Its the same rule as a kick to the head....

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:22 pm 
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Anyway; he faces the Tribunal tomorrow night.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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In my opinion I think he was just trying lever Adams off the ball to get the game flowing, he should be rewarded for his actions not criticised.
It is Adams who was in the wrong not making an attempt to get rid of the ball, if more people do what Chris Judd did, the game will be richer for it.


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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:26 pm 
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Agro jr wrote:
In my opinion I think he was just trying lever Adams off the ball to get the game flowing, he should be rewarded for his actions not criticised.
It is Adams who was in the wrong not making an attempt to get rid of the ball, if more people do what Chris Judd did, the game will be richer for it.



Agro jr its called the ufc i hardly think thats richer though.....


@ Warby... ill be sure to stay tuned tomorrow night... any idea who will be representing the defendant???
If they televised it live it could be like that movie... "To kill a mockingbird"..... riveting viewing...

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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Synbad wrote:
Agro jr wrote:
In my opinion I think he was just trying lever Adams off the ball to get the game flowing, he should be rewarded for his actions not criticised.
It is Adams who was in the wrong not making an attempt to get rid of the ball, if more people do what Chris Judd did, the game will be richer for it.



Agro jr its called the ufc i hardly think thats richer though.....


@ Warby... ill be sure to stay tuned tomorrow night... any idea who will be representing the defendant???
If they televised it live it could be like that movie... "To kill a mockingbird"..... riveting viewing...


Well Boo was certainly there.

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:39 pm 
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The Tribunal is going to make up the rules as they go....along with that, they'll throw a dart at the board and determine the sentence.

Whether it looks right or wrong is not the issue here. Some of you like the media are making up your minds on the run.

Is there a rule which accounts for a grab of the arm?...that was no chicken winging ala rugby tactics by the storm.

WTF is Adams doing over the ball? Why did the umpire not blow the whistle and pay a free against him? That's a rule you know. It didn't get paid and Judd holds an arm...it looked like he didn't know what to do and wasn't twisting...he hurt an already hurt arm...free game if Adams wants to cross the line in that condition. Next thing you know some player will die of a heart attack from all the Big Macs he ate since he was 3 and some poor bastard from the opposition will be blamed for his death if the the tackle looks remootely the reason he may have scared the player to death.

What will be will be...and Synners with regards to the persecution denial well that is something I can't do given what happened to us prior to 2002 with the ground development bullshit and 2002 with the unprecedented penalties....Key word...unprecedented...they don't like Carlton...we don't have to accept that...we can live with it...and we do...but we don't have to accept it. I choose not to.

Yeah yeah....they set the precedent then. Good one. Why then?

I couldn't give a flying @#$%&! TBH...the season is in ruins, Bower will be No 1 ruck this weekend and the coaching staff are going to blame everything on injuries and stuff. Judd playing this weeknd wont make a difference...there's some non coach stuff going on in the background, and I'll say this...some players have shit going on in their personal lives that should be dealt with and left behind the white line...and I'm sick of it....all of it...sack them all and start again in 2013.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:40 pm 
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Judd is going to need the best legal team in the history of mankind to fight this murder charge.

Lucky for him he can afford it.

If Alan Shore represents him, he'll get off for sure.

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Who will man the firing squad?

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:43 pm 
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bluehammer... actually to kill a mockingbird reminded me more of sydney blue and the trial of the murder and rape of the carlton footy club...

on trial was yarran garlett and betts...


Maybe for the Juddy thing ... it can be "The Trial"directed by Orson Welles...


The Trial is a 1962 film directed by Orson Welles, who also wrote the screenplay based on the novel of the same name by Franz Kafka. Welles stated in a 1962 interview with the BBC that "The Trial is the best film I have ever made."[1] The film begins with Welles narrating Kafka's parable "Before the Law" to pinscreen scenes created by the artist Alexandre Alexeieff. Anthony Perkins stars as Josef K., a bureaucrat who is accused of a never-specified crime, and Jeanne Moreau, Romy Schneider, and Elsa Martinelli play women who become involved in various ways in Josef's trial and life. Welles plays the Advocate, Josef's lawyer and the film's principal antagonist. The Trial was filmed in Europe and has been praised for its creative set designs and cinematography, especially Welles's uses of unique angles and focus.[2] The film is now in the public domain, and as such has never received an official home video release.

Classic !!! :thumbsup:

This is the redo...


"never specified crime"..........

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 Post subject: Re: Judd incident Vs NM
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We have guys over the ball every game too....

but we dont expect them to be jui jitsued....

Look we have to just remain sane about this.

It was stupid!!!

He is going to get weeks..... cos its potentially dangerous.....and its not the first time Juddy has done silly ultimate combat moves on players.....

He will just have to cop it !!!

and rightly so

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 7:59 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Whatever he gets he will get.
Was it potentially very serious? Yes anybody that knows abit about holds and submission holds will tell you it was potentially serious/
Was it hard on the eye? Yes
Did he have to do it? No


We dont need to try to defend every stupid thing we do.

Its better to move on and try to get ourselves to the next level... And that is focussed and switched on to be a power house.
There was nothing in a chickenwing that is football.. or discipline or an example of success.

Its just reeks unsavouriness and stupidity!!!!

He should cop his wack and it should focus us on where were at.. what we have.. and what we must do.

End of story

This persecuted mentality is really now StKildaesque in proportions



Sums it up perfectly.

If an opposition player did the same, most on here would be screaming blue murder.

Judd is a magnificent player, but he has the occasional brain fade that defies logic.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 16, 2012 8:02 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Whatever he gets he will get.
Was it potentially very serious? Yes anybody that knows abit about holds and submission holds will tell you it was potentially serious/
Was it hard on the eye? Yes
Did he have to do it? No


We dont need to try to defend every stupid thing we do.

Its better to move on and try to get ourselves to the next level... And that is focussed and switched on to be a power house.
There was nothing in a chickenwing that is football.. or discipline or an example of success.

Its just reeks unsavouriness and stupidity!!!!

He should cop his wack and it should focus us on where were at.. what we have.. and what we must do.

End of story

This persecuted mentality is really now StKildaesque in proportions
Yeah let's move on Synners!



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