Yep, agreed.

Out: Cook, Gleeson.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Too many people hitting the panic button after one bad game. McLean has had his first run at senior level for a while, so I think he should have at least another run. Not enough credit has been given to Essendon* for how well they play, and they are obviously not a bad team. They've won all four and played good quality football against us.

Our first three games were good so a little patience is in order before its time to summon Chicken Little.

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We will not w in a flag with fatten as coach. When will the club see the light?

Yes we will.

Why play Curnow and Ellard? Curnow's laid 2 tackles and provided 1 goal assist in 2 matches. Go find some form in the two's brosef.

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The 95 boys financed there end of season trip with those two losses.

Maybe Ratts, Sticks & Macca couldn't resist the $7.50 on offer for the Bombers.

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Especially OTC- Hird the turd is on

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Welcome back MJ. You must have been in deepest darkest Mongolia with Synbad for the past month without the Internet. We hadn't heard from either of you for the past 3 weeks and I was starting to worry the tribesmen had gotten you both.

Obviously all is well though but alas I see 'The Song Remains The Same'.

Regards Cazzesman

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Really? I like listening to Hird and think this will be particularly fascinating.

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I'm waiting for Rhys26.

nytdog's first post in four months was purely to criticise his whipping boy Mclean.

Sadder than the supporter who posted on our Facebook page that Rowe was supposed to be a walk up start, but we haven't seen him in the firsts.

A good lesson for our players and although I hate losing to the Bombers, this was the right time for it to happen,
After a soft win where our rucks gave the midfield an armchair ride, our midfield were reminded of the need to be 2 way runners and to respect their opposition.

Essendon* had a plan (their ruckmen palmed the ball wide at 45 degrees and their runners ran onto it beautifully). Unfortunately our midfield and coaches box took 30 minutes to wake up to it). I chuckle at the posters potting McLean for his lack of pace chasing. Have a look at Juddy chase on the transition. He's slower than my Nana. At least Brock tried to apply pressure. He had 8 clearances and plenty of pressure acts. If Ratten drops him after that, he should get his arse kicked.

We can beat Freo but we need to pay some respect to them. If our midfield are looking to feed off Kruezers taps, they're kidding themselves. We need our ruckmen to jump into Sandilands and our mids need to feed off him. Lets see how good they can be when they dont have silver service. Its a good challenge for our blokes. I'm looking forward to see how they adapt and react.
Are we still downhill skiers or do we now have some real substance.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

Good points BV. If I where Ratten, I would be demanding answers from Riley. Is it time for Ratts to get back up top? I was actually thinking this the before this game but maybe it's time for him to take control in the coaches box again and see the bigger picture. I like the player interaction but I feel his not reacting quick enough because he is not in control. Thoughts?

Oh careful, that's considered pathetic around here

Looks like the TC venting has ebbed so missed my chance for the sparkling new insight due to a long day's golf with the same level of focus, skilfull use of the ball and ability to react to the opposition as the Blues yesterday. Crap.
McLean - Agree they took a risk replacing speed with his lack of; he did eventually work into the game; he does need a few games to adjust but don't know if Freo there is the right place.
Thornton - was hugely stiff to get dropped and his better set shots and ability to take a grab would have been very helpful, despite the following...
Ball use into the forward line was terrible - poor options, poor disposal and they got it out much easier than most have. Need either Thornton or Walker back in next week depending on fitness.
Lucas did a couple of tougher things and despite missing 2 sitters took a small step forward yesterday.
Subs - agree with comments re McLean and Duigan versus impact players.
Duigan - has been rushed back and it shows, should have played at least 1 more vfl.
Should we really need another kick up the bum after the way 2011 ended? Hope they really get now the concept of 10% off and you go down.

Actually cazzeman one of us will be right and the other wrong.....and I hope I am wrong but I have seen enough over 100 games, to suggest that he hasn't got it.

All I know is that when we win the return leg later this year I'm gonna find every Essendon* supporter I know and lay the abuse on as thick as I can.

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So hard to earn, so easily burned
In the fullness of time
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#DopeThenStash

I chuckled at you potting the bloke that's won us so many games of his own back and turned the playing culture around 180 degrees, just to defend Brock

AJ provides more than Brock with his pace, run, hardness and shutdown ability IMO

If you are comparing the 1st 50 to the 2nd 50 you can't deny the vast improvement across the board at the entire club. Will he win a flag? Who knows. I doubt you can say any Coach will win a flag with 100% certainty. But over the past 50 games the improvement line on the graph has slowly headed up not down. So fingers crossed you and a few mates have to pack your bags for Mongolia again.

And if we do happen to have further success, I fully expect you to take zero pleasure in the achievement.

Regards Cazzesman

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We can agree on that one, Rexy. To compare Brock with Judd on any level is laughable. Brock's pace is his big issue, but the problems run deep. He's not up to AFL level and hasn't been since he came to Carlton.

Carrazzo's injury so early and needing McLean on for the full game was significant. Maybe that's what the Essendon* pre-game strategy was all about. Put a midfielder off the ground early so we had to sub in McLean?

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I am still shell-shocked. My worrying started when I heard the odds before the game.
Walking to the ground I hear Carazzo's injured and off and then 5 min later Laidler. I sensed it was going to be one of those days.
Essendon* and by that mean I mean Thompson employed the hawthorn model of being overly aggressive and bullying and unsettled us for 2 quarters.
It took till after half time to compose ourselves but when you play catch up footy, you can't miss simple set shots.
Just a horror day all round.
Anyone blaming McLean is kidding themself. He's a scapegoat. Sometimes when we are on the back foot, the superstars have to get dirty and stem the flow.
The difference between us on Sat and a Geelong or even Collingwood of last year is that they can sense things aren't going their way, batten down and stop the bleeding then wait for opportunities to score. Thats something we have to learn to do and fast because Ess has given other teams the blueprint which the middle rage teams, North, Syd, will try to emulate.

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