Shows a lack of trust in Ratten.
Hang the guy if he doesn't perform but at least let him run his ship.

I find it interesting that bar Riley, all other match day coaches have less experience than Ratten.

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Scott, things aren't as happy as they used to be down here at the unemployment office. Joblessness is no longer just for Philosophy majors - useful people are starting to feel the pinch.

Didn't John Elliott say that next to Denis Pagan, Wayne Brittain was the best coach in the AFL? Maybe we should start a bring back Brittain thread !

Enough is enough, close this thread down.

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How many clubs can you named that have assistant coaches with more real coaching experience than the coach?

Regards Cazzesman

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Or should at least get the spelling in the title right.

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Premierships: 1869, 1871, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1887, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1914, 1915, 1938, 1945, 1947, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995.

"GIBBS."

Look we have to keep supporting Ratts. I didn't like what I saw Saturday either but I think collectively we must now draw a line in the sand and say, just like Fev, all including Ratts are now on notice. One more pathetic 4 quarter effort like that and heads will roll with no regrets.
We where successful because we did not accept that and we will not accept it from now on. Simple as that.

I would be looking at Matthews and leaving no stone unturned if needed.

The simpleton is clearly you. In your crayon laden world, all pilots are the same, from a part time rural crop duster to a Qantas captain to a top gun. Defend Ratten by all means, but nonsensical analogies give your argument no credibility

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

Get Jimmy Hird in for a hand for flowers sake.

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Wayne Brittan got shafted. There is a reason Voss has him on board.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

He's not at Brissy any more!

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#NewBlues beginning 25th August 2015

Britts was actually a great tactician. For mine he was pushed off the deep end from the get go, inheriting an ageing list with a bunch of kids barely developed. Copped too much of the blame in 2002.

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Premierships: 1869, 1871, 1873, 1874, 1875, 1877, 1887, 1906, 1907, 1908, 1914, 1915, 1938, 1945, 1947, 1968, 1970, 1972, 1979, 1981, 1982, 1987, 1995.

"GIBBS."

combine that, with a season where we probably had our worst run ever with injuries, and Elliot feeling the need to big note himself by getting Pagan.

id have no problem getting Brittan back as a tactical coach, listen to him on the radio, and he knows what he is talking about.

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

my way of thinking is that ratten has received everything he has requested since he began his tenure.

he started by inheriting some decent young talent in murphy, gibbs, bower, simpson and the like.

he was then handed judd + kreuzer, requested hadley and was granted the wish by swann.

later he wanted chris johnson and warnock and was handed those guys. if you believe what you read on tc, he preferred yarran at pick 6 so hughes gladly obliged.

last year he decided we needed a mclean type and swann again delivered.

whilst all that was going on a 20mil+ training facility was erected.

ratten has enough talent at his disposal, great facilities and good enough resources for him to succeed. succeeding to me means that this year he needs to back up with another finals birth. whilst a sacking after round 3 is slightly over the top, anything short of finals this year is a failure and his tenure as carlton coach needs to be seriously looked at.

and this is what most sensible people are saying on this forum

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Got to love the stare Down by Setanta on Llyod

The point still stands. A change of coach now, or part way through this season would involve a massive disruption with the playing group, that the season would end up a write off, when looking at the big picture we are building.

I guess that might be too hard to comprehend?

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Brittain is a decade old news! You cannot be serious.

Desperate times call for desperate measures I guess.

He's been sacked two more times since we sacked him, by Richmond and then by Brisbane. Let him go.

Get Hinkley

And regurgitating your blind allegiance to Ratts over and over and over won't change people's opinions of him.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

I've officially moved from the "Let's reserve judgement and give Ratten a chance" camp to the "I'm dubious that Ratten is the right man to coach us" faction (please note - this is still a fair way from the "Ratten has no idea, he must be sacked now" set )....

This is not based on one game, but on what I've seen in the last 2 years.

I think a lot of us were surprised/confused/concerned about the apparent lack of transparency surrounding the process (if there was one) the club followed in identifying Ratten as the best coach available at the end of 2007.

Nevertheless, I (and many others) backed the judgement of Sticks & Pratt & co and supported Ratten completely (despite Ratten not having the coaching experience that some other possible candidates at the time had) - even when his contract was extended (arguably prematurely) in about early 2009. I also checked my misgivings about some of the appointments (and non-appointments) to the Assistant Coaching roles - after all, how can we, as outsiders, know what's best for the football department?

Over the summer, I've said many times that I don't expect us to make the finals in 2010 and that we will have to be patient. However, I've also said I expected us to be competitive and get some respect for the jumper back...

What I saw in the pre-season games had me worried. Then we beat Richmond and put in a decent showing in a loss to the Lions. Then the Essendon* game happened....that game was one of the most difficult experiences I've ever had watching Carlton (ie. since the early 1980s). After 2+ years of carrying some quiet doubts, as I left the MCG on Saturday night, I could sense myself shifting towards the sinking feeling that maybe it isn't just a long road ahead....maybe we are on the wrong road entirely.

I hope I'm wrong. I really, really do. But I also hope the club is looking seriously at the coaching set-up right NOW.

I'll continue to support Ratten because he's our coach. But....well, I'm now worried.

By the way, I'm not laying all the blame at the coach's feet - the players need to take responsibility too. But the coach is a pretty big part of it all, and I just hope the players aren't losing confidence in him the way I am.

Prove me wrong Ratts. We love ya.

Go Blues!

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It's never as good as it looks and it's never as bad as it seems.

I don't think anyone here has advocated anything but judging Ratts' tenure at a reasonable time, rather than knee-jerk reactions.

You'd be very naïve if you think the board isn't keeping their eyes and option open. But they're not going to sakc him on the basis of one poor week 3 rounds in.

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And so while others miserably pledge themselves to the pursuit of ambition and brief power, I will be stretched out in the shade, singing.

Get Pagan - proven premiership coach!!!!

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

What does sakc mean???

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"Truth, for the tyrants, is the most terrible and cruel of all bindings; it is like an incandescent iron falling across their chests. And it is even more agonizing than hot iron, for that only burns the flesh, while truth burns its way into the soul"     — Lauro Aguirre