...wwe need to give the lad a chance.

I love shaking my head at posts before seeing the same usernames attached to them.

After playing Waite forward last week, we might have to shift down back after the job he did on Rocca in round four last year.

Or we should bring back Setanta if Ratten can forget the fact that O'hAilpin isn't a good footballer.

It would be great to see Bower given the job with Cloke out and the Pies short on tall forwards.

Austin could play on Reid or Dawes if they're promoted for Cloke.

I think Oz played a good game on Dawes in the VFL last year

You said, and I quote "he hasn't done anything yet".

So, being among the Bests a few weeks running in the seconds means he hasn't done anything? what then constitutes having done something?

As I said, maybe you ought to take a look at what he has done, because failing to do that renders your opinion kinda irrelevant, in this context. It's a bit like saying you don't like eggplant if you haven't tried it. Seriously, have you seen him the past few weeks, injury free and playing in a different position to where he has played most of his footy for the Blues/Ants?

If you had you will know his kicking is arguably elite, it's better than any other genuine tall on our list and is comparable if not better to any other 195/6cm player going around in the AFL right now.

Again, this is his current form, which is all that matters. But no, he hasn't done anything yet. Right?

Maybe you should actually view what the lad has done before you draw conclusions about what he has or has not done. Failing that, your opinion, while permissible, is nonetheless fairly redundant.

So you can't see why talk of bringing in Harts to play in defence would bring up another tall who has demonstrated that he can play on power forwards? Amazing ...

And has Harts been doing the Waite-style sweeper role in the Bullants? To my eye, he's been doing a garden-variety fullback role. But perhaps you could explain what it is that you've seen in the Bulllants that would give you confidence he could be a sweeper.

Looks like we now know the ins

Fish - Harts and Robbo

Who are the outs


http://sportal.com.au/afl-news-display/ ... call-70320

I'm not sure that legspeed is the only issue. Livo, for instance, actually tested very well in the sprinting at Draft Camp. Maybe he lost that pace when he had his countless injuries and illnesses, but I think it was more that he didn't react quickly when his opponent led for the ball. Whether Harts has the same problem is something I don't know. Maybe others could say. If that is a problem for him, then Anthony Rocca might pose a problem. Yes, Rocca can play as a gorilla in static marking contests (sometimes too well as he showed against Dustin Fletcher), but he's also a very good leading forward too. He might not have the fitness to keep it going for the whole game and he might be out of form, but we don't want to play him back into form as we did with Lloyd.

What's wrong with Hartlett playing CHB against Rocca this week?

Your absolutly right mate. I Appologise.

Bring him in........... he is the superstar we've all been waiting for.

I just don't like the name Adam and he's got a funny head............. so i guess that's what i was basing my opinion on. Nothing to do with his kicking or his previous games.

Maybe i should start taking notice of how players are developing and the form that they are carrying. That would be a much better way of judging them..............

Thanks for the heads-up!

What's wrong with Hartlett playing CHB against Rocca this week?

Your obsession with Setanta is over the top and illogical.

Hartlett can kick 60 metres and is a footballer who can play at both ends.

Will free up Waite to play forward and exploit their backline.

Setanta is behind Austin, Thornton, Bower, Jamison and Waite as a defender.

And Kreuzer, Warnock, Jacobs and Hampson as a ruckman.

Deadwood.

Im a bit shocked that Fisher is being touted as a possible in. I've only seen him in last weeks game for the bullants, but from that and all the reports, I'm a bit perplexed he is being looked at as an In. Maybe Harts in the forward line. Would like to see Browne get a run, but unlikely. Glad if Robinson is back in.

IF Hartlett does come on and be the player we all hope(d) he'd be, then good on him - i'll be very happy.

Feel sorry for him with his bad run of injuries.

But the fact is, i don't think he has shown any type of decent form to warrant a place in the seniors.

As a defender - i'd much rather Setanta.
As a forward - i'd prefer Cloke (believe it or not) or perhaps even throwing Austin up there.

Hartlett for mine just hasn't shown enough. And despite the fact he was mentioned in the best last weekend, i think Robbo was one of the only ones who played like he was above the level of standards in the VFL. Crap Crap games.............. Just cause he's featured in the best doesn't mean he's worthy of a recall.

YES - He has a thumping kick and a good strong body and can take a mark - but so could Chris Bryan! He's hardly setting the world on fire.

Again........... good luck to Hartlett. But i just don't see him in out best 22 at the moment and haven't for a while.

Just more of the Ratts clutching at straws syndrome.
We have little defensive pressure in our forward line and were going to bring in maybe Fisher this week.

Fish is good when you have a balanced forward line structure cos he can add something different.
In this current structure he will be exposed big time....!!!

Plus he does nothing to add to our inaccuracy... and Ratts is on record saying thats a problem...

I actually think were not accurate cos were indirect... but what would i know???

Hartlett shouldnt be played in defence.
He is a forward... and nothing else...

He doesnt have closing speed...

And with Jameson, T Bird,Austin,Waite,Bower and Setanta we should be teaching him the art of making forward space and kicking goals...

Look from one angle what you say is spot on.

But, what else is there other than VFL and the other players on our list? We can't just pluck a gun young tall from nowhere. We have finite supply and the players we have now some are not performing so change is arguably a necessity.

We need to release Waite, unless we wait for Warnock to come in and then maybe we release Kruezer forward.

I am not hugely confident on Harts, but I reckon he deserves another shot. I wouldn't feel that way if it wasn't for his kicking. It was brilliant last weekend. Give him a go as a sweeper and kicker, might not work but hey, we're not going to go all the way this year so let's see what he can offer.