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Any chance of a little bit of perspective in here?

Fev took a leak at an inappropriate time.

Fev was out late 6 nights (5 sleeps) prior to the start of the season.

The typical "bogans and no shows" on SEN together with Caro, Fatprick etc are running with this as if it is the worst thing that has ever happened.

To use Steve Johnson as an example is ridiculous. He missed 6 weeks as punishment and then repeated his indiscretions in January. Nothing changed.

Collingwood takes the approach of not suspending players - Didak and shootings anyone?. Melbourne suspends players. So what!

Carlton should do what is best for Carlton and forget these sanctimonious DIPSTICKS in the media.

Some players are worthy of altar boy status. Some players are not.

The AFL and the media have tried too hard for too long to become social engineers.

What Fev did wasn't great, but so what, it wasn't outrageous nor should we allow others external to the club to dictate how we penalise him.

I think the test for the Blues is to take the Collingwood line and say;

"we are here to play footy, any penalty will be against Fev not the team, not the supporters and not the sponsors - Fev will play Thursday night"

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I would suspend him for one week, take him out of the leadership group and have a suspended sentence of 5 weeks if he stuffs up again.
I like Fev but his silly stuff ups are not good for the clubs image and if we let him off the hook again we run second to the clubs who do have the gonads to suspend and discipline players.....we have to be leaders at everything including discipline...

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Interesting to see how Judd handles this issue, as Captain it will fall on him to make final decision after discussion with leadership group.

I can't see him putting up with this crap anymore.

As for comments that we need him, what a load of bull. He is 27 will never grow up and is to one dimensional. How many games have we one with him in the side?

We need several options up forward and he is possibly only one of them, I have given him the benefit of the doubt before but enough is enough, he won't be around for our next premiership so get rid of him at the end of the year.

Pagan was weak with him, Ratts can't be.


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I dont think there is any here who has not at some point in there life had to relieve themselves somewhere in public after being caught short - however 9 out of 10 of us would have the foresight to be more discrete than Fevola. :roll:

I dont have a problem with Fevola having one night out prior to the season starting - but 5 days out from a game is inexcusable - as it would be during the course of the season. :x

He was seen at the Casino on the weekend from the early hours of the morning to nearly mid-day playing cards - prior to heading out to the Grand Prix (not sure if he actually made it there).

To go on this sort of bender this close to Round 1 is inexcusable and obviously he was in no fit condition to make a decision as simple enough as to be able to find a discrete place to have a piss. :x

Its almost time for our leadership group to take a leaf from the "Steve Johnston" program. Not having Fevola for 6 weeks is not going to affect our Premiership chances this year and will give players like Edwards and Hartlett responsibility and an opportunity to show there wares as a go to player.

This course of action may affect our membership sales - however we have to give credit to our members and supporters who are intelligent enough to see the positive side to this course of action.


Judge him on the field not offield please. Best Forward in the league.

Forget all the political BS, we want to win games. Would not of won a game without him last year. Even if he doesnt do a thing out there on the field hes double teamed leaving another player open.

If he f@#Ks up again, suspend him. But he should only get a fine like the NRL players



Best forward in the league you really have navy blue glasses on

Brown, Lloyd, Pavlich, Gehrig, Reiwolt,Franklin, Hall even Tredrea and Brad Johnson would give him a run

The guy is a goose a left over from the Pagan reform school and should have got rid of him. If we were going to accept this behavoir why did we get rid of Angwin - He had far more up side than Fev

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If he does end up playing he'd want to play bloody well.

The problem with penalising Fevola is that he's such a petulant little shit he'll mope in a corner and we'll get a season of grief from the prick.

I've always defended Fev and believed that he was worth the effort considering the fact that as well as being a fairly amiable sort of idiot he also has sublime football skills but I'm starting to waver.

This week was supposed to be the relaunch of our club in so many ways and instead we've been dragged through the mud by Liberatore, lost Kruezer for Round 1 and now this.

There was nothing anyone at the club could do to avoid the first to but Fevola's stupidity is purely the result of a member of the Carlton Football Family being a flower.

We've all been so glad to see the influence that a truly professional player can have on our younger players but if that's going to be continually countered by this sort of thing then what's the point.

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We've all been so glad to see the influence that a truly professional player can have on our younger players but if that's going to be continually countered by this sort of thing then what's the point.


Great point.

Does anyone seriously think Fev is the best forward in the game? Brown is twice the player Fev is and 5 times the bloke, team mate and leader.


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Jarusa wrote:
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Fevola spent the off season being operated on to repair a body that has been decimated for your entertainment value ... and then people get on here and attack his character for a minor incident by today's society's standards (football profile aside). It is disppointing sure, but some people's reactions to this are ludicrous.


There is still a substantial core of Carlton supporters who have hated Fev since the day he stepped into Princes Park.

Nothing is going to change that, just look at this thread all the usual suspects saying exactly the same thing they say every time Fev does something stupid. You could set your clock by it! :lol:

I suspect that Fev is one of those player who is hated more by his own supporters than by opposition supporters.


There is still a substantial core of Carlton supporters who make excuses for Fev and allow him to get away with the same things time after time since the day he stepped into Princes Park.

Nothing is going to change that, just look at this thread all the usual suspects saying exactly the same thing they say every time Fev does something stupid. You could set your clock by it! :lol: :roll:


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Play him Thursday night and have him run onto the ground to "Candy Man" by Christina.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4kR8OQCrlQ

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Judge him on the field not offield please. Best Forward in the league.



Best Forward in the League? Your kidding, I would have Brown, Reiwoldt & Pavlich ahead of him anyday plus you don't see them getting into trouble.


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So the issue isn't whether he deserves punishment, it's whether he's important to the game coming up. I gather if it was, for example, Paul Bower, he'd be sent to the Magoos for a while?

At worst an alcohol embargo, team curfew, community service and if he breaks it he gets a 4 week holiday.

At best he's out for Round 1, plus the above criteria.

What a flower.


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BlueWorld wrote:
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Fevola spent the off season being operated on to repair a body that has been decimated for your entertainment value ... and then people get on here and attack his character for a minor incident by today's society's standards (football profile aside). It is disppointing sure, but some people's reactions to this are ludicrous.


There is still a substantial core of Carlton supporters who have hated Fev since the day he stepped into Princes Park.

Nothing is going to change that, just look at this thread all the usual suspects saying exactly the same thing they say every time Fev does something stupid. You could set your clock by it! :lol:

I suspect that Fev is one of those player who is hated more by his own supporters than by opposition supporters.


There is still a substantial core of Carlton supporters who make excuses for Fev and allow him to get away with the same things time after time since the day he stepped into Princes Park.

Nothing is going to change that, just look at this thread all the usual suspects saying exactly the same thing they say every time Fev does something stupid. You could set your clock by it! :lol: :roll:



:lol: :lol:

The hysterical comments in this thread are all in the 'A' column. :wink:

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I don't have any problem with him being out late on a Saturday night. He probably only had a lazy Sunday planned, like most of us, anyway.

Has there been any reports he had lots to drink, or that he was blind drunk or anything? I haven't read all the media but I don't reacall seeing any mention of him being off his face in what I have read.

It's a pretty minor indcident to get worked up about.


I'd say he and his wife closed up the restaurant rather late and went out for after work drinks. I don't think there's a massive problem with how late he was out, but Candy bar is more like a cafe than a nightclub, if he was pissing on the front window then it's likely that there were people sitting at tables 2 feet from him. He would have wanted to be pretty far gone.


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I don't have any problem with him being out late on a Saturday night. He probably only had a lazy Sunday planned, like most of us, anyway.

Has there been any reports he had lots to drink, or that he was blind drunk or anything? I haven't read all the media but I don't reacall seeing any mention of him being off his face in what I have read.

It's a pretty minor indcident to get worked up about.


I'd say he and his wife closed up the restaurant rather late and went out for after work drinks. I don't think there's a massive problem with how late he was out, but Candy bar is more like a cafe than a nightclub, if he was pissing on the front window then it's likely that there were people sitting at tables 2 feet from him. He would have wanted to be pretty far gone.


Of course that would make it socially acceptable and be more desirable from the club's perspective :wink: :P


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Is it fact he was urinating on windows or speculation at this stage?


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Is it fact he was urinating on windows or speculation at this stage?


woah, woah, woah... slow down there tekno.

It is far too early in the piece to be bringing facts into the equation! :lol:

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Brendan Fevola = class clown

The Leadership Group must recommend to the Match Committee that he miss Round 1, be dropped from the Group and put on notice that another indescretion off the field will result in a heftier penalty. A fine means bugger all to Fev, its just another chip on the blackjack table.

I honestly can't believe that he still acts like he is 18. The problem is he has gotten away with far too much over the years because no one in the footy club has had the balls to set him straight.

Hopefully this will be the case today, led by wiser more mature minds. He thinks he is bulletproof, always has, and really we need to look to the future. Question is does he want to be part of the Chris Judd, Bryce Gibbs, Marc Murphy, Matthew Kreuzer future of the Navy Blues?

You're no longer the face of the Club Brendo, cop your fair whack on the chin and stay off the drink and show to your teammates that you are serious about being a winner!


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there is still a couple of things that need to be taken into consideration

1. we dont know what exactly happpened so we cant comment or judge from what weve heard with out know what exactly happened.

2. the stuff that has happened has "alleged" to have happened.

We all sit here high and mighty and judging and baggin someone without know what has exactly happened.

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Jarusa wrote:
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Is it fact he was urinating on windows or speculation at this stage?


woah, woah, woah... slow down there tekno.

It is far too early in the piece to be bringing facts into the equation! :lol:


Oh, well in that case, I believe some of his urine splashed on my shoe (my shoe was out for late nite supper you see) and i'm deeply embarrased and I think as punishment I should have lifetime reserved seating at all Carlton games. If not, I'll be giving an exclusive to Hutchy on The Footy Show this week... hey, if Libba can get coin from bullshit, so can I!


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Who's actually seen the footage? Would anyone care to pass on what happened on it please.


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I would not give a toss who it was. I actually feel sorry for the players when they get done. If they are drink driving, they lose their license, but on top of that they get suspended and usually atleast $5000 ontop of that by the AFL.
And if they break a curfew of 1am, then they get suspended or some other BS. A AFL player means you can't have a social life at all. The curfew would mean you cant even go out after 1am and not even be drinking and you break the rule. Basically, you can't do any bucks nights, go to any bday parties, functions and stay out after 1am. Sure u can go have a couple drinks but how ridiculous in this day in age we have curfews. I dont agree with Fev being out at 4am, but i'm sure he will come out and kick a bag. Fev being drunk 5 days before a game wont affect his performance at all on Thursday. Alcohol doesn't affect your body that much, but you dont want younger players doing it aswell.

Put it this way, l read about the fev article today.

Willie Mason: Was fine last month for pissing a public place.
Sonny Bill Simmons (NRL star): Fined for pissing outside a night club. He was fined $650

Now i think this is being a bit blown out of proportion. If Fev receives more then just a fine this is ridiculous


Yes let's feel real sorry for them. Earning many times what an ordinary person earns playing AFL. If they aren't prepared to make sacrifices they can always play in the suburban leagues!


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