Well said Syd

I think you're overrating Matt Kennedy and underrating Harry O'Farrell.
Owies is a fringe player at West Coast.

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And you’re underestimating the quality of some of our kids

And you’re underestimating the quality of some of our kids

i'm not sure where that comes from.
Underestimating? It sounds to me that Humpers rates HOF highly.

I'd love to know who these players are that robbed our team of the chance of success. Kennedy is the only one who has had a consistent year elsewhere and most posters believed he couldn't play midfield in our side with Cripps, George etc.

It seems to me Doc and SOS knew the players coming in over the next couple of years would take their spots so they saw the writing on the wall.
The noise coming out of the playing group recently makes them sound like an entitled, pampered bunch of sooks. They had their opportunity. 5 goals up in a prelim and went to water. The club gave them another year and the result was similar. Too many players unable to put together a consistent block of footy. Cuningham, Marchbank, Martin etc. They could have still been on the list and still not being fit enough to step in when we had injuries.
The decision to replenish seems right to me. As Voss said, it's a reset, not a rebuild. We'll be competing strongly for the 8 next season IMHO.

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All good BV, was referring to SB’s comment that our young fellas were 4 to 5 years away

surely blind Freddy could see we needed run and we needed players that were not injury prone ( then of course we get 2 knees an Achilles and whatever Newman had) - given those needs I thought we drafted well (except for the plethora of small forwards) and have begin to address the needs that we all knew were there.

Without that redress we may have played finals again and lost finals again - with the redress who knows we may actually be building towards a GF.

I am excited about Jagga
I loved what i saw of HOF
Like Skull
Carroll and Wilson give us run and ball use
2 Campo boys will add to this side
Lord keeps getting better
add Dean and whoever else

fingers crossed with Walker and we may just have a side that can go all the way.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

The fog of the 2025 season is finally clearing and we're discovering the massive disconnect between the football department and the players.

As Doc said, the players were expecting a tilt at the flag and wanted top ups to help them achieve it... whereas the FD entered a semi rebuild phase. If or how well that was communicated to the group is unknown and it's easy to say @#$%&! the players wanting to leave... I was one of them. But it's clear we're not a very well run or coached club, and their (players) time in the game is short. If you look at it from that context, how can you not expect them to explore other opportunities.

As for us fans... we enter another 'fingers crossed' phase of our CFC supporting journey.
It will be long and most definitely include a coaching change (or three)... and more player movements.

But this time it will be different, right?........ right?

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Players wanted to top up?

OK then. All you blokes on $800k plus, we’ll need the ‘plus’ back from each of you.

Get you topped right up. Top you up real good.

Give me a spell…

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I found that interview intersting too.
It sounds like the senior players, or some players, thought they were close to a flag and only had to top up with a couple of players.
Who knows who is right here. I felt like we had a pretty good list and weren't far off it and was a bit surprised that we traded away some decent players such as Kennedy and depth players in recent years. Our depth was challenged again this season when we got the inevitable injuries.
Clearly there has been a disconnect between the club and players.

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Docherty doesn’t say anything like this in the “full” interview posted on the Carlton website, was all this edited out? Where is this “uncut” version that people are referring to?

We won't get any where near breaking into the 8 next year.
We needed a sustainable run at playing finals.
6 to 7 years straight then become a regular finals contender.
If you think we are having a mini reset and will pop again next year you are dreaming.
There are teams that will go past us at a rate of knots.
Danny said blind Freddie could see we needed speed who apart from Jagga did they bring in that was quick.

They stuffed it .23 games from Kennedy 23 from Owies who kicked more goals last year than any player did this year.
And even if you got a dozen from either Marchbank Carroll Cunningham or Martin we would have been better off.
We lost 2 first year players to ACL they should have been learning in the seconds
And we sat and watched Lord White Carroll Cowan HOK struggle to put 4 quarters together. All started games well be faded in last 2 quarters.
The club thought they would keep there best 23 on the park and like most years it turned to shit.

They screwed up.

These young players we blooded this year are a few years away from competing with the best. We can't seriously expect Cowan to match up on a Raynor or Elliot.
We can't expect Carroll to take a Gunston like players and we can't expect Lord and Jagga to compete with Rowell Anderson Serong Butters Neale etc etc
These players will need time to develop.
They have now missed a window because they didn't have 27 to 28 AFL ready players on the list. 17 under 21 is to many
6 aged 22 to 25 is to few

Poor list management

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exactly, @#$%&! me - life is short but also you know a million a year please.

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That's exactly what they had last year and they fell into an elimination final and got flogged.
Why would things suddenly change? The club made the right decision. They gave this group 2 opportunities in finals and they weren't up to a premiership. Reset and let the spine of Weiters, Harry, Cripps etc have another shot.

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Brisbane had 5 opportunities
Swans about 10
Geelong 14 out 15 finals campaign
We make 2 and no good enough so rebuild again.
The list we had took us to a preliminary and despite an horrendous run of injuries finals in 2024.
We had an AA half back nominated us.

The results this year shows they got it wrong
The player exodus shows they got it wrong
The coaching turnover they got it wrong
The football manager
No players putting there name to come to us.

They stuffed up big time

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hang on Brisbane have made significant changes addressing list needs continually - to me this has been Carlton's issue (well one of them) they havet hought the side needs "tweaking" (or worse, we have the side now change the coach) not addressing significant issues - great clubs bite the bullet and address the issues - I finally feel like we may have done that!

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Back in the day Danny, as you well know, we were very good at topping up or tweaking the list to continue the path to Glory. A few examples are Perovic, Wells, Rhys-Jones, Williams, Spalding .....

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If we lose Charlie as well then physiologically it won't be good for players that are left. Not that I rate Charlie that highly anymore but I think it will effect team morale. We would need to win the first 5 games to get some belief back.

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I’m guessing you meant to write psychologically but if he’s been sooking it up in the change rooms then psychologically it’ll be a relief for a number of them.

The number one issue at the club since 1995 has been an entitlement mindset of the players.

I love David Parkin but he let that genie out of the bottle.

If Graeme Wright can end that we can’t pay him enough.

The club is bigger than you you overpaid little mother.flowers.

Suck it up.

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