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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:23 am 
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Laurie Kerr

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I've tried to map the list visually.

Key take aways:
- We are counting on Motlop and Moir to step up big time and Williams to stay fit. Small forwards are more important than ever and it's still a weakness
- Lack of a quality 2nd key back is glaring. McGovern and/or JSOS will need to play tall. God help us if Weiters goes down
- Pick 3 and Ben Campo need to be able to have an immediate impact next year because they will get plenty of opportunities
- Kemp, Cincotta and O Hollands miss my best 22 but I expect them to play most of the year. I think Cotters gets first dibs on the wing, and O Hollands may play a bit of half back if a running defender goes down.
- Hopefully JSOS can stay fit so we never have to see the Pitto + TDK combine again.
- Not really sure where I would have put Matt Kennedy

Our best 22 looks prelim worthy, so I expect Rob Inness will make or break our 2025.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:26 am 
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Shuffle Carroll to the rookie list. Delist M. Carroll and S. Durdin but sign them to the VFL team. Tell them that they're a possibility in the MSD if a spot becomes available.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:45 am 
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......."with pick 32, St Kilda place a bid for Ben Camporeale"


100% this will happen!


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Of course Silvagni will do that

Nothing surer.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:50 am 
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CK95 wrote:
One other thing - the Hawks traded their own futures for Barrass, not ours.

They clearly don't rate us :grin:


Surprise surprise


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:51 am 
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Silvagni doesnt need the spirit of Dodo. He can be a flog all on his own.

Remember one year he was our recruiting manager and he bid on everyone. He just held everything up and was basically smurking every time.

I mean, he just loves being an a#$.

I remember when i was young, he would basically not look at you when you asked for an autograph. Wouldnt sign anything. Same with Bradley.

But I still loved him, even after he dobbed on us with the salary cap.

But here we are, and now i cant stand the sight of him anymore.

To the point where i dont care to even have Jack anymore, as I dont feel like Jack loves this club that much anymore because of his dad and Ben saying all this bad stuff about us.

I reckon Jack will only stay for one more year with us, and possibly be off with his daddy dearest to SOS new love - St Kilda.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 11:57 am 
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Bluey44 wrote:
CK95 wrote:
One other thing - the Hawks traded their own futures for Barrass, not ours.

They clearly don't rate us :grin:


Surprise surprise



Actually I think it's West Coast who don't rate us. They had the choice apparently

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:03 pm 
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CK95 wrote:
Bluey44 wrote:
CK95 wrote:
One other thing - the Hawks traded their own futures for Barrass, not ours.

They clearly don't rate us :grin:


Surprise surprise



Actually I think it's West Coast who don't rate us. They had the choice apparently


Other way CK, WC rate us, that's why they took the Hawks pick, they think the Hawks will be below us.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 12:12 pm 
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Ah yes. My head hurts

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:12 pm 
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peabody wrote:
I've tried to map the list visually.

Key take aways:
- We are counting on Motlop and Moir to step up big time and Williams to stay fit. Small forwards are more important than ever and it's still a weakness
- Lack of a quality 2nd key back is glaring. McGovern and/or JSOS will need to play tall. God help us if Weiters goes down
- Pick 3 and Ben Campo need to be able to have an immediate impact next year because they will get plenty of opportunities
- Kemp, Cincotta and O Hollands miss my best 22 but I expect them to play most of the year. I think Cotters gets first dibs on the wing, and O Hollands may play a bit of half back if a running defender goes down.
- Hopefully JSOS can stay fit so we never have to see the Pitto + TDK combine again.
- Not really sure where I would have put Matt Kennedy

Our best 22 looks prelim worthy, so I expect Rob Inness will make or break our 2025.

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Good post. I agree that the performance of the fitness/medical staff is a crucial component of success. While our list isn’t perfect, I feel like it’s good enough to challenge if the coaches and high performance staff have a good year. Not sure they did in 2024.

Fingers crossed the Acres injury isn’t a LTI.

I reckon Cotters will play mostly in the front half and O.Hollands wing.

It would be massive if Young had a breakthrough year - perhaps stung by the lack of interest in him from other clubs during the trade period? There is a spot in the side if he is good enough. I haven’t gone back and watched the elimination final (and I never will), but I recall thinking on the night that he wasn’t our worst performer and maybe there’s still improvement left in him.

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:33 pm 
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I was told - Re Young.

He says himself he is a confidence player so being in and out of the side had him lose confidence. The uncertainty is playing with his mind.

From someone i know who attended a function and spoke to him.

They told him that his kicking has gone backwards. And realises this. Big lack of confidence was the main takeaway basically.

I believe this. He looks lost and hesitant when he has the ball.

His team mates including Weitering and McGovern should not be berating players, they should be encouraging them.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 4:56 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
But I still loved him, even after he dobbed on us with the salary cap.

Wasn't it Ian Collins that 'recommended' that he and a few others fess up in an attempt to soften the blow from the AFL?

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:12 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
But I still loved him, even after he dobbed on us with the salary cap.

Wasn't it Ian Collins that 'recommended' that he and a few others fess up in an attempt to soften the blow from the AFL?


perhaps, but he didnt have to do it

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 5:45 pm 
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Collins and Ay Dee….

between the two of them we got screwed….!

In each others pocket back in the day….!

BIG time…!


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:17 pm 
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Drewgirl wrote:
I was told - Re Young.

He says himself he is a confidence player so being in and out of the side had him lose confidence. The uncertainty is playing with his mind.

From someone i know who attended a function and spoke to him.

They told him that his kicking has gone backwards. And realises this. Big lack of confidence was the main takeaway basically.

I believe this. He looks lost and hesitant when he has the ball.

His team mates including Weitering and McGovern should not be berating players, they should be encouraging them.


Fancy McGovern berating someone???? Mr NFI.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:26 pm 
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
I was told - Re Young.

He says himself he is a confidence player so being in and out of the side had him lose confidence. The uncertainty is playing with his mind.

From someone i know who attended a function and spoke to him.

They told him that his kicking has gone backwards. And realises this. Big lack of confidence was the main takeaway basically.

I believe this. He looks lost and hesitant when he has the ball.

His team mates including Weitering and McGovern should not be berating players, they should be encouraging them.


Fancy McGovern berating someone???? Mr NFI.


yeah, that still shits me, real leaders encourage, not berate

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 6:52 pm 
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bender wrote:
Hornet wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
But I still loved him, even after he dobbed on us with the salary cap.

Wasn't it Ian Collins that 'recommended' that he and a few others fess up in an attempt to soften the blow from the AFL?


perhaps, but he didnt have to do it

my wife recommends that i lose weight, but i'd rather stuff my face with kfc


:lol:

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2024 7:58 pm 
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bender wrote:
SurreyBlue wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
I was told - Re Young.

He says himself he is a confidence player so being in and out of the side had him lose confidence. The uncertainty is playing with his mind.

From someone i know who attended a function and spoke to him.

They told him that his kicking has gone backwards. And realises this. Big lack of confidence was the main takeaway basically.

I believe this. He looks lost and hesitant when he has the ball.

His team mates including Weitering and McGovern should not be berating players, they should be encouraging them.


Fancy McGovern berating someone???? Mr NFI.


yeah, that still shits me, real leaders encourage, not berate



Yeh McGovern berating Kemp in a game that he himself was stuffing up a lot.

I lost respect for him after that, and oh the time he missed that shot that would have made us beat Collingwood.

No players should be telling others off. There was a fair bit of late in our backline last season.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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SurreyBlue wrote:
Drewgirl wrote:
I was told - Re Young.

He says himself he is a confidence player so being in and out of the side had him lose confidence. The uncertainty is playing with his mind.

From someone i know who attended a function and spoke to him.

They told him that his kicking has gone backwards. And realises this. Big lack of confidence was the main takeaway basically.

I believe this. He looks lost and hesitant when he has the ball.

His team mates including Weitering and McGovern should not be berating players, they should be encouraging them.


Fancy McGovern berating someone???? Mr NFI.


Funny that . One day at Princes Park Bruce Doull gave the late Johnny O"Connell an almighty spray that would make a drover blush and they were the best of mates . Back then it was quite common . They felt that was the way to get the best out of each other .

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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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And of course there's May-Lever, which tends to get brought up every time we have this discussion.


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 Post subject: Re: List Management 2024
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Gee there's some optimistic people around here re: Young

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