Ok so new criteria

No shit players!

Does that work??

Give Bootsma a chance Sugar. He will be ok. Armfield I am satisfied with. Yarran we know about the talent but output insufficient at present. Watson? I am hoping but my belief is waning. The rest on your list I totally agree with. Why the @#$%&! they weren't moved on or traded is a mystery to me.

I didn't have Bootsma on my list

Sorry Sugar, my apologies.

Recruitment Criteria for the club to recruit player should be at a minimum:
- Accurate kick
- competitive (hates losing a contest/game)
- is athletic enough to play the game (medium speed at least)
- not afraid to put their head over the ball
- is footy savvy (smarts)
- has capacity to play more than one position

Now go find players that fit this criteria - there, I have done your job Shane Rogers & co!!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

Sounds like Menzel (hopefully)

Crikey that's a massive departure from
Our previous criteria you realize lol

It's a quantum leap, but highlights wtf these recruiters at the club are thinking!!!
Add to that - some extroverts - too many timid quiet types on the list - that's not Carlton!!!

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For some silly reason, you people want to assassinate him, and it's just rubbish. You people. All of you, ALL of you!

I'm not sold on Touhy either for what it's worth

His development has been minimal at best the last 12-18 months

He's hardly setting the world on fire

The more I think about it our recruiting and trading has been terrible

tend to agree

however, at least he has a physical presence and can impact a contest

just needs to get the ball more often

Tuohy is one of the bright lights this season

And give up 600k a year to earn f all

Doubt it

Look it would be great if it were that easy.

As it stands our picks will be around 7, 25, 43 etc.

You should be able to get someone to fulfil your criteria at 7 and someone to fulfil 4/5 of 6 at 25 but the further down you go the less you are going to get.

If we were to delist say 8 players our picks 6, 7, 8 would be 100 plus. The chances of picking up the types you want are negligible.

Plenty on here are lauding Collingwood's recruiting team. They gave up pick 79 (?) for Jordon Russell last year so obviously didn't rate anything in the draft they were likely to get at that number.

I understand upgrading picks is possible but Duigan, Mitchell, Joseph, Davies etc aren't going to improve your picks much, if at all.

Blokes like Hampson might get you an upgrade from 43 to 35 but you're still gunna need a lot of luck to find the players you want there.

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Would like to see him get some time in the middle - might be time to send him backtrack to the VFL for a few weeks specifically to play and learn that role.

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I wonder if its worth letting Betts go for free during the free agency window, or at the very least offer him a reduced contract.

He's got no value on the trade market, and if he can't play a decent spell in the midfield, then we're paying him 300k to play maybe once every three weeks.

Before he got injured, he was showing something as a pinch hitter in our midfield rotations, if he can get back to that, he still has use. Otherwise, that's 300k a season saved to have a crack at someone else on the free agent market.

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Jetta did alright in the GF last year....

its interesting what geeling did with stokes. increasingly played him more through the midfield last year...and made him work at midfield in the off season knowing they lacked run through the middle and now hes a full on midfielder for them picking up the slack where chapman was waning with his pace.....

amazing metamorphosis of a guy like stokes who looked like was spinning his wheels a couple of seasons ago....

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Something hugely wrong with our player development - Betts has been at the club at least 8 pre-seasons, that he doesn't have the desire or the tank to regularly play in the midfield is an indictment on both him and the club, and probably the fact that we have had no regular Centre Half Forward.

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Betts has been our CHF for a number of years - that's the problem!

Problem is that we build a forward line around the likes of Betts and Garlett because that is the new way of playing football, even though other top teams are playing with 3 talls.....