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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:25 pm 
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dane wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..imagining a fit list to choose from for round 1, 2015..


FB: Jamo Rowe Doc
HB: Simpson Watson Everitt
CC: Yarran Gibbs DT
HF: Menzel Hendo KJ
FF: Bolt Walker Buckley
RR: Krooz Judd Murphy

Int: Crisps Bell Curnow Carrots


You seriously think that is our best team?


..the only 'controversial' pick in that is watto.. ..unless I missed someone?, I don't think I did..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:25 pm 
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B: Buckley Rowe Jamison
HB: Yarran Henderson Simpson
C: Boekhurst Judd Tuohy
HF: Thomas Jones Everitt
F: Walker Casboult Menzel
Foll: Kreuzer? Gibbs Murphy
Int: Curnow Cripps Jaksch
Sub: Bell

Not sure about the ruck, I hope Kreuzer is right but who knows at this stage.
Boekhurst might be a stretch but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Would like to fit Clem Smith in the forward line hopefully he will get a chance this year.


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 Post subject: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:28 pm 
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Pretty tall. Hendo is a forward. Bench too slow. IMO.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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Rabbit wrote:
B: Buckley Rowe Jamison
HB: Yarran Henderson Simpson
C: Boekhurst Judd Tuohy
HF: Thomas Jones Everitt
F: Walker Casboult Menzel
Foll: Kreuzer? Gibbs Murphy
Int: Curnow Cripps Jaksch
Sub: Bell

Not sure about the ruck, I hope Kreuzer is right but who knows at this stage.
Boekhurst might be a stretch but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Would like to fit Clem Smith in the forward line hopefully he will get a chance this year.


..no Docherty?, and I still think carrots can come on off the bench.. ..I think carrots is on the way out, but if fit it's hard to pass up another seasoned body that is versatile and can/will run all game..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:35 pm 
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dane wrote:
Pretty tall. Hendo is a forward. Bench too slow. IMO.


Forward line is a bit tall for my liking, which is why I would like Clem in there. In saying that Walker, Menzel and Thomas should be smart enough around goal if it goes to ground. Thomas and Walker could always switch with Yarran/Buckley from time to time.

Yes Henderson is a debate, I like him back but he can obviously play at either end.

Yes Cripps and Jaksch are slow but Curnow is quick and Bell is the sub. On the park they are pretty quick though.

It is hard to get the balance, thanks for your reply.


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 Post subject: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:39 pm 
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Get Doc in too.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:40 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
Rabbit wrote:
B: Buckley Rowe Jamison
HB: Yarran Henderson Simpson
C: Boekhurst Judd Tuohy
HF: Thomas Jones Everitt
F: Walker Casboult Menzel
Foll: Kreuzer? Gibbs Murphy
Int: Curnow Cripps Jaksch
Sub: Bell

Not sure about the ruck, I hope Kreuzer is right but who knows at this stage.
Boekhurst might be a stretch but I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Would like to fit Clem Smith in the forward line hopefully he will get a chance this year.


..no Docherty?, and I still think carrots can come on off the bench.. ..I think carrots is on the way out, but if fit it's hard to pass up another seasoned body that is versatile and can/will run all game..



Docherty is the obvious exclusion, the next cab off the rank if one of the mids go down. In reality he would probably take Tuohy/Bell/Boekhurst's spot, tough to fit them all in. Unfortunately as much as I like him I think Carrazzo is gone, the kids need games, tough call though.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 4:41 pm 
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dane wrote:
Get Doc in too.


ha ha BKB just said the same thing. Yes you are probably both right, replace Boekhurst/Bell/Tuohy more than likely. Hard to pick.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 8:59 am 
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http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-06/y ... bs-best-22

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 9:55 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-06/your-clubs-best-22



That article puts the side as

B: Zach Tuohy, Michael Jamison, Dylan Buckley
HB: Chris Yarran, Sam Rowe, Kade Simpson
C: Dale Thomas, Bryce Gibbs, Ed Curnow
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Lachie Henderson, Troy Menzel
F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Liam Jones
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy
Int: Tom Bell, Andrejs Everitt, Sam Docherty
Sub: Patrick Cripps

Short down back and tall up forward, I think that looks unbalanced. Swithching Hendo back for a small and replacing him with a small in theforward line would fix that, but I like Hendo forward. Alternatively Walker or Everitt could go back as a third tall, but I still think Hendo/Cas/Jones is a bit big and slow up forward. Alternative is to leave out Jones, at this stage I don't think he is a walk up start but preseason could change that, and have another small.

My own leaning, given Jaksch is unavailable but assuming all others fit would be

Buckley Jamison Everitt
Thomas Rowe Yarran
Simpson Carrazzo Gibbs
Judd Henderson Menzel
Casboult Walker Tutt
Kreuzer Curnow Murphy
Docherty Tuohy White
Sub Armfield

Pressing for spots, Bell Cripps Whiley for big mids (Tuohy Carrazzo under pressure), Jaksch when fit for third tall swingman, (White, maybe Everitt under pressure), numerous mids and flankers (Buckley, Carrazzo, Tutt, Docherty, Tuohy, Armfield under pressure).


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:05 am 
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ianh wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/2014-12-06/your-clubs-best-22



That article puts the side as

B: Zach Tuohy, Michael Jamison, Dylan Buckley
HB: Chris Yarran, Sam Rowe, Kade Simpson
C: Dale Thomas, Bryce Gibbs, Ed Curnow
HF: Andrew Carrazzo, Lachie Henderson, Troy Menzel
F: Andrew Walker, Levi Casboult, Liam Jones
Foll: Matthew Kreuzer, Chris Judd, Marc Murphy
Int: Tom Bell, Andrejs Everitt, Sam Docherty
Sub: Patrick Cripps

Short down back and tall up forward, I think that looks unbalanced. Swithching Hendo back for a small and replacing him with a small in theforward line would fix that, but I like Hendo forward. Alternatively Walker or Everitt could go back as a third tall, but I still think Hendo/Cas/Jones is a bit big and slow up forward. Alternative is to leave out Jones, at this stage I don't think he is a walk up start but preseason could change that, and have another small.

My own leaning, given Jaksch is unavailable but assuming all others fit would be

Buckley Jamison Everitt
Thomas Rowe Yarran
Simpson Carrazzo Gibbs
Judd Henderson Menzel
Casboult Walker Tutt
Kreuzer Curnow Murphy
Docherty Tuohy White
Sub Armfield

Pressing for spots, Bell Cripps Whiley for big mids (Tuohy Carrazzo under pressure), Jaksch when fit for third tall swingman, (White, maybe Everitt under pressure), numerous mids and flankers (Buckley, Carrazzo, Tutt, Docherty, Tuohy, Armfield under pressure).


I agree, too short down back. Personally I prefer Henderson down back and would like to see Everitt go fwd.
IMO White, Carrazzo and Armfield will be fighting for a spot.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 10:37 am 
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Has the journalist done his homework on Jaksch injury?

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 12:14 pm 
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Seniors :

Buckley Jamison Jaksch
Docherty Rowe Sheehan
Yarran Cripps Everitt
Walker Henderson Thomas
Menzel Jones Casboult

Kruezer Gibbs Murphy

Judd Simpson Curnow sub: Boekhorst

Reserves :

Smith White Fields
Touhy Giles Dick
Rainbow Carrazzo Armfield
Bell Watson Ellard
Tutt Foster Wood

Warnock Whiley Graham

Holman Johnson Gowers
Walsh Byrne. Russell


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 1:10 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Has the journalist done his homework on Jaksch injury?

Funnily enough haven't heard a peep from any journos since the initial 10 weeks diagnosis. Seems good news isn't worthy of reporting. It was only worth reporting when the player we traded pick 7 for potentially had a long term injury.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:38 pm 
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Lazy Sunday arvo, bit of time on my hands, here we go:

Simpson, Jamison, Jaksch
Sheehan, Rowe, Yarran
Boekhorst, Gibbs, Docherty
Thomas, Henderson, Buckley
Menzel, Casboult, Walker

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

Inter: Everitt, Cripps, Curnow
Sub: Tuohy

Pressing hard/on the cusp:

Carrazzo (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Whiley (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Bell
Jones
Tutt (NAB will tell us plenty)

Comments:

Surely Boekhorst in best 22 and plays Rd 1, being a sub 20 pick at the age of 21. Will give this team plenty, should work brilliantly with clearance monster Cripps.

Rate Sheehan very highly based on what he did at the end of last year, will put Zach's spot in the team under real pressure. But Zach still in the 22, though.

Jones by no means a walk up start.

That's a pretty sharp footy team there, surely strong contenders for the 8 and possibly higher.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 4:27 pm 
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Blues Clues wrote:
Lazy Sunday arvo, bit of time on my hands, here we go:

Simpson, Jamison, Jaksch
Sheehan, Rowe, Yarran
Boekhorst, Gibbs, Docherty
Thomas, Henderson, Buckley
Menzel, Casboult, Walker

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

Inter: Everitt, Cripps, Curnow
Sub: Tuohy

Pressing hard/on the cusp:

Carrazzo (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Whiley (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Bell
Jones
Tutt (NAB will tell us plenty)

Comments:

Surely Boekhorst in best 22 and plays Rd 1, being a sub 20 pick at the age of 21. Will give this team plenty, should work brilliantly with clearance monster Cripps.

Rate Sheehan very highly based on what he did at the end of last year, will put Zach's spot in the team under real pressure. But Zach still in the 22, though.

Jones by no means a walk up start.

That's a pretty sharp footy team there, surely strong contenders for the 8 and possibly higher.


I like this side though would probably swap Bell for Tuohy as Sub :thumbsup:

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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GodisNavyBlue wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Lazy Sunday arvo, bit of time on my hands, here we go:

Simpson, Jamison, Jaksch
Sheehan, Rowe, Yarran
Boekhorst, Gibbs, Docherty
Thomas, Henderson, Buckley
Menzel, Casboult, Walker

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

Inter: Everitt, Cripps, Curnow
Sub: Tuohy

Pressing hard/on the cusp:

Carrazzo (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Whiley (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Bell
Jones
Tutt (NAB will tell us plenty)

Comments:

Surely Boekhorst in best 22 and plays Rd 1, being a sub 20 pick at the age of 21. Will give this team plenty, should work brilliantly with clearance monster Cripps.

Rate Sheehan very highly based on what he did at the end of last year, will put Zach's spot in the team under real pressure. But Zach still in the 22, though.

Jones by no means a walk up start.

That's a pretty sharp footy team there, surely strong contenders for the 8 and possibly higher.


I like this side though would probably swap Bell for Tuohy as Sub :thumbsup:


I like it when there is no room for Warnock.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:26 pm 
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Blues Clues wrote:
Lazy Sunday arvo, bit of time on my hands, here we go:

Simpson, Jamison, Jaksch
Sheehan, Rowe, Yarran
Boekhorst, Gibbs, Docherty
Thomas, Henderson, Buckley
Menzel, Casboult, Walker

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

Inter: Everitt, Cripps, Curnow
Sub: Tuohy

Pressing hard/on the cusp:

Carrazzo (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Whiley (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Bell
Jones
Tutt (NAB will tell us plenty)

Comments:

Surely Boekhorst in best 22 and plays Rd 1, being a sub 20 pick at the age of 21. Will give this team plenty, should work brilliantly with clearance monster Cripps.

Rate Sheehan very highly based on what he did at the end of last year, will put Zach's spot in the team under real pressure. But Zach still in the 22, though.

Jones by no means a walk up start.

That's a pretty sharp footy team there, surely strong contenders for the 8 and possibly higher.


They didn't go after Jones to not play him. Time will tell if he's any good for us, but I reckon a spot in our forward line is his to lose early in the season.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:49 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
Blues Clues wrote:
Lazy Sunday arvo, bit of time on my hands, here we go:

Simpson, Jamison, Jaksch
Sheehan, Rowe, Yarran
Boekhorst, Gibbs, Docherty
Thomas, Henderson, Buckley
Menzel, Casboult, Walker

Kreuzer, Judd, Murphy

Inter: Everitt, Cripps, Curnow
Sub: Tuohy

Pressing hard/on the cusp:

Carrazzo (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Whiley (for either Curnow or Cripps)
Bell
Jones
Tutt (NAB will tell us plenty)

Comments:

Surely Boekhorst in best 22 and plays Rd 1, being a sub 20 pick at the age of 21. Will give this team plenty, should work brilliantly with clearance monster Cripps.

Rate Sheehan very highly based on what he did at the end of last year, will put Zach's spot in the team under real pressure. But Zach still in the 22, though.

Jones by no means a walk up start.

That's a pretty sharp footy team there, surely strong contenders for the 8 and possibly higher.


They didn't go after Jones to not play him. Time will tell if he's any good for us, but I reckon a spot in our forward line is his to lose early in the season.


How do you play him in the forward line and not make it unbalanced?

Last Rd last year we did have Watto, Cas and Waite all I50 and that seemed to work ok (to the amazement of most of us), but does Jones have the athleticisim of a Waite? Not clear cut, concede that.

Walks can play tall and take a grab and has the althleticisim too, do we need 3 genuine talls with him I50?

Cas is 2nd ruck, seems a lock he has to play.


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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Mon Dec 08, 2014 8:23 am 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
They didn't go after Jones to not play him. Time will tell if he's any good for us, but I reckon a spot in our forward line is his to lose early in the season.


I agree. Also I'd be shocked if Tuohy's not in the side as well. He's our designated kicker. Didn't think his season was as bad as many made out.


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