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cecil89
 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 1:04 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:

I get the feeling that Clem Smith may play round one. The kid is confident, has some mongrel and if he can have a good pre season could easily slot straight in in a BP.

Upon recruiting Smith Rogers said the club see him more as a small forward. Given some of his untidy disposal it's probably not a bad idea to take him away from the last line of defence. His attack on the ball will be a welcome change from Garlett in the forward 50 too.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 2:15 pm 
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jimmae wrote:
FB: Jaksch Jamison Docherty
HB: Tuohy Rowe Yarran
CC: Gibbs Murphy Simpson
HF: Boekhorst Henderson Walker
FF: Buckley Casboult Menzel

RR: Kreuzer Cripps Judd

Int: Bell Curnow Everitt Thomas

Yeah I don't see how we're supposed to fit Jaksch, Jones & Everitt into the same team if everyone's fit and in form. Carrazzo, Graham, White and Sheehan are other immediate casualties based on end-of-season form.


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Everitt could be the other big bodied midfielder ala Kouta and Cripps....has pace, good hands and big body.

Great problem to have. Then there's the rookies who may come good which is a trend at Carlton....plus next years BIG FISH plus some.

Empire has been rebuilt. Warnock may have played his last game in 2014....for Carlton anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 3:50 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
B: Buckley Jamison Jacksch
HB: Yarran Rowe Sheehan

Foll: Kruezer Whiley Gibbs
C: Boekhurst Cripps Murphy Simpson

HF: Thomas Henderson Menzel
F: Casboult Walker

Int: Docherty Curnow Judd Tuohy

On the fringe: Carrazzo Bell Everitt Smith Dick DVR White Graham

I get the feeling that Clem Smith may play round one. The kid is confident, has some mongrel and if he can have a good pre season could easily slot straight in in a BP.

I would expect a mature guy picked at 19 to play straight away.

Docherty will play midfield. Started there last year until ran out of puff but with a full pre season will do really well. Big improver.

If Jacksch not fit White will fill his spot. Just leave Kruezer in the ruck with the odd spell up forward.

Good depth with players fighting for spots will make a difference.

Issue for me is still average ball use and lack of real elite level players (Gibbs excluded)


Personally, and given his performance as a 2 way player last year, I can't see how Everrit can possibly be considered on the fringe. If he maintains the work ethic and hunger he had last year he will be one the of the first blokes picked IMO.
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 29, 2014 4:10 pm 
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Agree Everitt is definitely a core 22 player
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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..this is why I said Jones is no certain starter.. ..he comes her as a fringe sort and needs to be good enough to crack into the team, we aren't desperate for him in there.. ....give BB some time too, if we hit next year with a mostly fit list spots will be filled by our hurt senior players coming back into the squad..

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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we seem to have certain positions which are fought over by many and some where we have automatic starters because of lack of competition.

heaps of 190 to 195cm type players

Every player on our list has been stretched out to at least 190cm - even Simpson, daisy and Murphy are at least 190cm. I am not sure if we are using peptides or some sort of mechanical BKB device to achieve this, but something is going on,

and there is Cripps ladies and gentlemen - our secret weapon for 2015

Nobody knows how tall he is - estimates range from 146 cm to 231 cm

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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cecil89 wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:

I get the feeling that Clem Smith may play round one. The kid is confident, has some mongrel and if he can have a good pre season could easily slot straight in in a BP.

Upon recruiting Smith Rogers said the club see him more as a small forward. Given some of his untidy disposal it's probably not a bad idea to take him away from the last line of defence. His attack on the ball will be a welcome change from Garlett in the forward 50 too.



agree I think smith will play round 1 and forward pocket where his bustle and grunt will be a handy addition. Buckley into the Back pocket on the small forwards. I have no doubt that MM has had a hand in his recruitment.. he .just has the malthouse stamp all over him.
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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padre wrote:
Agree Everitt is definitely a core 22 player


No doubt about that.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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jimmae wrote:
Tuohy was in good nick at the end of the season, and no, I was specifically referring to those 4 names as being unfortunate cuts given their form.


Had to re-read that. :wink:

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..imagining a fit list to choose from for round 1, 2015..


FB: Jamo Rowe Doc
HB: Simpson Watson Everitt
CC: Yarran Gibbs DT
HF: Menzel Hendo KJ
FF: Bolt Walker Buckley
RR: Krooz Judd Murphy

Int: Crisps Bell Curnow Carrots

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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interestingly Trigg singled out BB and Tutt as likely starters this year.
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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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I don't think Watson will be playing rd 1 unless multiple KPP injuries.
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..imagining a fit list to choose from for round 1, 2015..


FB: Jamo Rowe Doc
HB: Simpson Watson Everitt
CC: Yarran Gibbs DT
HF: Menzel Hendo KJ
FF: Bolt Walker Buckley
RR: Krooz Judd Murphy

Int: Crisps Bell Curnow Carrots


:lol: this heel turn is very entertaining.

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
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..I don't get the heel turn reference..

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padre wrote:
interestingly Trigg singled out BB and Tutt as likely starters this year.


..with a fit list, who do they push out..?..

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Turn to being a villain/troll

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Turn to being a villain/troll


..don't see the connection..

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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..imagining a fit list to choose from for round 1, 2015..


FB: Jamo Rowe Doc
HB: Simpson Watson Everitt
CC: Yarran Gibbs DT
HF: Menzel Hendo KJ
FF: Bolt Walker Buckley
RR: Krooz Judd Murphy

Int: Crisps Bell Curnow Carrots


You seriously think that is our best team?

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 Post subject: Re: Our best 22?
PostPosted: Fri Dec 05, 2014 2:23 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
I don't think Watson will be playing rd 1 unless multiple KPP injuries.


..I reckon he's under rated.... ..writing off a young Kpp that has only played 19 games, the majority of them good for where he is.. ..only a few fumbles in the lot.. ....name me the other young, developing tall kids that have kicked four in a match when played out of position.. ..or for that matter, in that age demographic name me our other kpps..

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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
padre wrote:
interestingly Trigg singled out BB and Tutt as likely starters this year.


..with a fit list, who do they push out..?..



Personally I think Cripps, Bell, Curnow & Carrots in the one side can't work. So replace Boekhorst with one.

Tutt (if he has a good preseason) has the small forward role waiting for him IMO unless Smitty has an unbelievable turnaround in fitness.
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