I think the point is they need to be smoked out..
Which means we need Mick to throw ab few smoke grenades in their bunker..
No pain no gain!

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They have silenced Mick.
Caro is saying they are a "new board", give them a chance. When challenged she says MLG is a new chairman so that means a new board in her eyes.
Robbo similar.

Maclure, Maher, G Healy our last chances

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Lol, he's [REDACTED] over the best run club in the comp and you want him to be the beacon of "truth" for our malaise.

Only shit that will come out of his mouth will be what shines on poor old Mick

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I'm telling you all, the media as a collective hate Malthouse. If it was Clarkson we just sacked in the same circumstances the media rhetoric would be different.

Having said that, even the media can see that Carlton are doing things very differently to historical trends.

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Historical trends? Forced upon them by money constraints?
The statement stated no financial cost changed to no significant financial cost to the club.. In two sentences.
Get the transcript
Lol

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and this is where we're at.

unless the board stand down, they're not going anywhere. and as currently constructed, if they decide they're not going anywhere, they're pretty much bullet proof to outside competition (ie rival tickets).


reality is; i can't see these dinosaurs of the board relenting their power and standing down. they're whole modus operandi is all about bunkering down for now and riding out this storm and when it's done, they'll walk in the sunshine once more, like they've always done.

I think its pretty much done now. The media might try to milk this for all its worth but I can't see anything further from here. Business as usual for Carlton with the focus now going on who will Carlton pick as its next "long term" coach. As much as I truly wish for the board to be held accountable for the demise of our once great club with the damage truly set in stone now, I can't see anything actually happening.
I listened to so many callers yesterday and those in the media hammer away on the current board and I actually began to think there might be hope for genuine change. After sleeping on it all and waking up to reality, I can't see any real conceivable way the current board will be going anywhere.

I guess the only real outcome will be the many thousands of supporters who've had a gutful will stop buying memberships and going to see games, but that can, and will be overturned once on-field performances improve. Moments like this are short and fleeting, if someone is going to try and take advantage of the situation they need to act whilst the iron is hot, and ultimately talk is cheap. Once we start to get a few wins during the season, any hope of real change at the club will vanish.

So we have a performance based time-line if somethings going to happen. We keep losing, the fans will drop off in droves. But if we start improving, it will be business as usual at Carlton. If a challenge is going to be forthcoming, those behind it will need to get their act together pretty quickly. Taking a punt on our immediate on-field success might be a greatly missed opportunity for real change. If anyone has plans, I say strike now and strike hard whilst support is there. If they wait, they could miss a golden opportunity, because all its going to take is for the team to start improving and the fans will start returning and it'll be business as usual at Carlton.

Our biggest problem now is that our board massive ego has been hurt and it will be even harder to move them on. They will want a new coach to build a successful side that can make them look like they have saved the club...

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Haha KB on sen can't understand how the members rubberstamped the boards 'independent' committe for board nominations.

As I've posted elsewhere:

"The board will never make serious internal reform, unless there's an unlikely revolt from within. The only way I can see serious board reform is if a credible rival ticket is announced to clean the current mob out."

Is it too much to expect a suitable and credible rival ticket?

On the positive side, for the faults of MLG and Triggsy, the mistakes they are making appear to be well intentioned.

They tried to handle the Mick sakcing as best and as respectfully as possible. It was Mick that kept upsetting the apple cart.

Yes, it was dumb to go so public with the rebuild commentary after R2, but a rebuild is what we need. So the idea is right, but the timing of the public comments was very poor.

They are trying to be open and honest with the club and making efforts to engage with members and fans.

MLG may not have the strength or competence to be the leader we need, but he seems to be trying to do the best thing by the club.

Trigg may not have the honesty and integrity we need. But in the 60 seconds he spent explaining the Crows' tracking of Betts in yesterday's presser, he opened my eyes to just how far behind the eight ball our club seems to be in so many aspects.

Finally, and thankfully, we have a board and CEO leading us into a thorough selection process for our next coach. Something we've wanted for at least the last two appointments.

I would very much welcome an outside challenge to the board, but I think it's also worth acknowledging the incumbent leadership is trying.

More than we can say about our players of late.

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I think what's needed is a symbol. A symbol that projects the sentiment that most people have for this board.
The symbol should not be a word or a Baghdad
#Hashtag in my opinion.
It should not be so lazy and obvious. It might be an acronym for instance so that it can easily be tweeted etc but not too lazy and honest.
They need to know we have their irresponsible and rudderless malpractice in our sights.
The media will pick up on it..
It should be Plastered everywhere on social media.. Relentlessly

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They need to feel the walls closing in around them. Not that they are keeping is out

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FMD.

Its a poorly run club. We get it.

It's not as if we injected drugs into our players.

This is being made out as if it's a friggin major catastrophe on some global scale.

We are talking about cottage industry, in which our club is run by footballer insiders and inbreds....just like many other clubs

Ours happen to crappier than most.

MM is not that important...nor are the players

FMD is OK..

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The Board is what the ALP had years ago called the 'faceless men'. Far easier for the media to sensationalize the coach's position and sell more papers to the half interested if you only need to write simple stories about individual ex players rather than a team of executive types with a dubious footy history. And as with everything today it will to a large extent be media driven if the Board are to be moved on.


So the media usually being less than underwhelming will go for the easy story will they not unless we can find that rare species - the intelligent and investigative journo.

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I agree with that CB.

MLG and Trigger say the right things, they know what is needed and where we are at. They are not into quick fixes, and are trying to engage the members. They want a rebuild on and off the field. They've acknowledged membership is poor and identified the disengagement between club and fan.....

....on the negative side is they are clumsy and at times naive about how they go about things. They have little to no experience in fixing the problems they've so rightly identified, and from the outside don't seem to have the right people or funds to do as much.

I think however Trigger is copping a bad rap for the last 5 days, and taking the heat for what has been slowly festering for 15 - 20 years.

From the outside it seemed dumb to go public as he did prior to Friday night, but you can't help think he knew of the consequences and wouldn't be upset by yesterday's events.

The board backed themselves into a corner and Mick wasn't going to quit. If in fact he'd gone feral and rogue internally as had been whispered since around the Collingwood game then something had to give. Trigger gave him the rope, and the rest is history.

It's not ideal, but thankfully we haven't got Swann and Sticks talking of Top 4 finishes, and needing a Premiership coach to "finish off" what had barely been started...

They at least realise were at Ground Zero, but there is still a lot more change needed before we can even think about beginning the climb.

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But not what we're looking for...
We might not have injected the club with drugs. We have injected it with the death of a thousand cuts

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That was Moshe-like!

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You're a shill Liam, tell us who you really are

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20 ways to see the world,
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BINGO!!!!

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We are Carlton, @#$%&! the rest !!!!!!