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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:32 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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Effes wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

This is now a pattern of us spending an entire quarter unable to break through a fairly straightforward defensive zone.

Pattern for all the time under Malthouse.

They have a man behind play like NAB and I'm only watching TV and they are winning the stoppages.

Win the stoppages and we win...will we stand up?

I was expecting them to tire towards end of qtrs like last week.

Casboult needs to grab a few...he's not getting the grab but we don't have smalls on the floor

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Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:32 pm

Harry Vallence

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Sad to watch .......

Other opposition teams would be laughing at them right now

0.0 for the quarter and no idea how to get the ball past half way

Really really sad to watch

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jimmae

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Bruce Doull

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Spread of possession is a bit shit right now but that reflects us not getting it out of half back. We spread out to match their zone and it forces a long kick; need to have a more huddle-esque approach to drawing their zone and then creating some space through hard running. Two or three blokes making some hard sprints and we'll be having a shot on goal.

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Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Wayne Johnston

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We show ability when we want to. Problem is they are so used to waving the white flag when it gets too hard and not working. Problem they've had since 2002.

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Punter22

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:33 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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Effes wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

This is now a pattern of us spending an entire quarter unable to break through a fairly straightforward defensive zone.

Pattern for all the time under Malthouse.

I can't recall it as long lasting within quarters as the last two weeks. ladt year bt he end of the year we at least looked organised. This year we are a mess.

If this continues just shut down the contract thread now. The whole panel will be gone.

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grrofunger

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:34 pm

Bruce Doull

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Even if we can win the stoppages we still have nobody forward to kick to

It's seriously embarrassing. Our structure and plan is really bad.

I didn't think it was this bad but seeing it live......wow..... Yeah it's bad.

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:34 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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Scoreless in the 2nd. FMD WTF

It has to be the midfield delivery.

Tiggers.

We need get ball run v
Ball forward...but gotta get ball first.

Let's start again.

Time for something softet...of...get me a Coppers Pale Ale otherwise I'm going to go off like a frog in a sock

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:35 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

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White done his knee
One of those poor buggers that keeps getting cruelled by injury.

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Punter22

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:35 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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verbs wrote:

Punter22 wrote:

I'm moving on to scotch. Beer won't cut it for the next half.

I'm giving it one more beer.

Poured my first Ardbeg there's no going back for me. Don't know why I am wasting it on Carlton, they're at Black Douglas level right now.

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kezza

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Ken Hunter

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Sydney Blue wrote:

White done his knee
One of those poor buggers that keeps getting cruelled by injury.

You mean his ACL?

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jim

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Wayne Johnston

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I'm making a request to the AFL that we don't stop for qtr time....lol.

We have a break then come out shit.

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jimmae

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Bruce Doull

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Ok those who are complaining about the kickout strategy... this was employed in Ratten's day so I'm not sure what it has to do with Malthouse as I presume he's tinkered it since then. When we stop running our fluidity dies.

Seems obvious but try telling that to the players.

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Alex Jesaulenko

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We went goaless for 53 minutes last week
Currently at 35

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Blues Clues

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:36 pm

Rod Ashman

Joined: Sat Sep 09, 2006 2:01 pm
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Just dispiriting stuff.

Murphy not running
Gibbs regularly banging on his boot to nowhere
Menz bludging
Rowey's time in the sun very brief, needs to go
Etc etc

When the fatigue sets in, lacking the will to dig deep.

Should be 5-6 goals down.

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verbs

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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Haven't seen a quarter that bad since...? Did we ever play that bad under Pagan?

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Punter22

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

Mike Fitzpatrick

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Sydney Blue wrote:

White done his knee
One of those poor buggers that keeps getting cruelled by injury.

It's ok we've got plenty of taggers.

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idle

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

Serge Silvagni

Joined: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:48 pm
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I haven't felt this hopeless since Pagan was coach ...

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kezza

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

Ken Hunter

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Wonder if we will get a free kick this quarter.

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bondiblue

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:37 pm

Stephen Silvagni

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grrofunger wrote:

Are you at the game gro?

It does look harder from the ground than on TV admittedly.

But...if they can bleed we can kill em.

I'd be breathing fire and suggest we damage put them out get the nut get free and win and if we have a few out, we are 1/1 instead of 2 zip before next round

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Blue Sombrero

Post subject: Re: R2: WCE vs Carlton (Match discussion)

Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 9:38 pm

Stephen Kernahan

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grrofunger wrote:

Blue Sombrero wrote:

verbs wrote:

One of the worst quarters in a long time. Lucky West Coast butchered the quarter.

This.
They have to do something to get some midfield drive. Judd and Bell both shut down that quarter. Put Gibbs in the middle. Put Yarran in the middle. Put Touhy in the middle but do something!
In the first quarter, we roved to Natanui but the second, they got the clearances on top of his work.

It's easy to say Jones, Hendo and Casboult have done nothing but the ball didn't get near their end that quarter.

Smith looks lost.

Down their end? They don't have an end.

Our forward 50 was empty of players the whole qtr

Our forwards were up contributing to the Eagles defensive wall

That happens.
Mids get the footy like they did first quarter and it changes everything. The secret is to get the footy.
my point was that they have to do something. Otherwise we just get more of the same.

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