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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:04 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Rexy wrote:
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Because open play would slaughter us
It's easier to guard half the ground than all of the ground. You do understand how smaller armies can defend a pass compared to open areas?
Think Switzerland.

And what's bullocks?
You believe our club was flying till mick came?
You're funny... He was brought in because the club is a shambles from top to bottom and he might be the wrong guy because the club is a shambles from top to bottom... And that's why he's here.
Do you understand those two well made points?
One needs a mind in strategy the other begs a mind of common sense.
Now make your point about how this club has been well run till mick came ....
Go on and then I'll rip your argument to absolute sheds with some more common sense


mick is complicit in the fraud on Carlton members

taking millions on false pretences

How come?
He was headhunted and contracted to coach the list we have

I world be directing my anger at the president board and CEO and everybody else who has had a hand at bringing us here.
Do you smell what they were cooking now?
That's fraud..!


I have no problem with that except you were there clapping your hands like a big seal when Mick signed and you sprouted our we would be a better team and players will improve out of site under Mick. You supported the board, pres and ceo on their big appointment. You seem happy with Thomas too. B&F winner this year. Marked your words.

You get it wrong so much that we have to take the rest of your posts with a grain of salt.

Go "big picture" on us again. Its a good out. ........but really if you go "really big picture" you would ask yourself why you and the rest of us waste so much time on a football fan site ? is it really the behaviour of "Deep Thinkers"?

Yes I did to stop the rot.
But too late!
At least he brought in three runners...
Even in this crap he has shown more nouse than what we've had under Hughes ratts and McKay.
We don't have runners
We don't have a midfield.
We don't have leadership
We don't have backbone
We have nothing a successful club has..
That needed to come to a halt.

I knew we were sunk....
I've been saying that for years.
We couldn't not afford to have amateurs running the club any longer.
Turned out it didn't matter the needle and the damage done..

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 pm 
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Is Malthouse the right coach to take us forward and develop a premiership team


no-one knows, including the board... but they'll keep signing his cheques !


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Because open play would slaughter us
It's easier to guard half the ground than all of the ground. You do understand how smaller armies can defend a pass compared to open areas?
Think Switzerland.

And what's bullocks?
You believe our club was flying till mick came?
You're funny... He was brought in because the club is a shambles from top to bottom and he might be the wrong guy because the club is a shambles from top to bottom... And that's why he's here.
Do you understand those two well made points?
One needs a mind in strategy the other begs a mind of common sense.
Now make your point about how this club has been well run till mick came ....
Go on and then I'll rip your argument to absolute sheds with some more common sense


mick is complicit in the fraud on Carlton members

taking millions on false pretences

How come?
He was headhunted and contracted to coach the list we have

I world be directing my anger at the president board and CEO and everybody else who has had a hand at bringing us here.
Do you smell what they were cooking now?
That's fraud..!


I have no problem with that except you were there clapping your hands like a big seal when Mick signed and you sprouted our we would be a better team and players will improve out of site under Mick. You supported the board, pres and ceo on their big appointment. You seem happy with Thomas too. B&F winner this year. Marked your words.

You get it wrong so much that we have to take the rest of your posts with a grain of salt.

Go "big picture" on us again. Its a good out. ........but really if you go "really big picture" you would ask yourself why you and the rest of us waste so much time on a football fan site ? is it really the behaviour of "Deep Thinkers"?

Yes I did to stop the rot.
But too late!
At least he brought in three runners...
Even in this crap he has shown more nouse than what we've had under Hughes ratts and McKay.
We don't have runners
We don't have a midfield.
We don't have leadership
We don't have backbone
We have nothing a successful club has..
That needed to come to a halt.

I knew we were sunk....
I've been saying that for years.
We couldn't not afford to have amateurs running the club any longer.
Turned out it didn't matter the needle and the damage done..

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Because open play would slaughter us
It's easier to guard half the ground than all of the ground. You do understand how smaller armies can defend a pass compared to open areas?
Think Switzerland.

And what's bullocks?
You believe our club was flying till mick came?
You're funny... He was brought in because the club is a shambles from top to bottom and he might be the wrong guy because the club is a shambles from top to bottom... And that's why he's here.
Do you understand those two well made points?
One needs a mind in strategy the other begs a mind of common sense.
Now make your point about how this club has been well run till mick came ....
Go on and then I'll rip your argument to absolute sheds with some more common sense


mick is complicit in the fraud on Carlton members

taking millions on false pretences

How come?
He was headhunted and contracted to coach the list we have

I world be directing my anger at the president board and CEO and everybody else who has had a hand at bringing us here.
Do you smell what they were cooking now?
That's fraud..!


I have no problem with that except you were there clapping your hands like a big seal when Mick signed and you sprouted our we would be a better team and players will improve out of site under Mick. You supported the board, pres and ceo on their big appointment. You seem happy with Thomas too. B&F winner this year. Marked your words.

You get it wrong so much that we have to take the rest of your posts with a grain of salt.

Go "big picture" on us again. Its a good out. ........but really if you go "really big picture" you would ask yourself why you and the rest of us waste so much time on a football fan site ? is it really the behaviour of "Deep Thinkers"?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:05 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Rexy wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Because open play would slaughter us
It's easier to guard half the ground than all of the ground. You do understand how smaller armies can defend a pass compared to open areas?
Think Switzerland.

And what's bullocks?
You believe our club was flying till mick came?
You're funny... He was brought in because the club is a shambles from top to bottom and he might be the wrong guy because the club is a shambles from top to bottom... And that's why he's here.
Do you understand those two well made points?
One needs a mind in strategy the other begs a mind of common sense.
Now make your point about how this club has been well run till mick came ....
Go on and then I'll rip your argument to absolute sheds with some more common sense


mick is complicit in the fraud on Carlton members

taking millions on false pretences

How come?
He was headhunted and contracted to coach the list we have

I world be directing my anger at the president board and CEO and everybody else who has had a hand at bringing us here.
Do you smell what they were cooking now?
That's fraud..!


I have no problem with that except you were there clapping your hands like a big seal when Mick signed and you sprouted our we would be a better team and players will improve out of site under Mick. You supported the board, pres and ceo on their big appointment. You seem happy with Thomas too. B&F winner this year. Marked your words.

You get it wrong so much that we have to take the rest of your posts with a grain of salt.

Go "big picture" on us again. Its a good out. ........but really if you go "really big picture" you would ask yourself why you and the rest of us waste so much time on a football fan site ? is it really the behaviour of "Deep Thinkers"?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:06 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:07 pm 
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sinbagger wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
So what your saying is the media gives coaches respect?


I'm saying basic manners in private, or public are the way we convey respect to one another.
:smile:


I have to agree, MM behaved shockingly in the way he addressed Sam, he's a grown man and paid to represent our club so he should learn to control his bad temper and not behave like a spoilt brat. Sets a very poor example for his players.


Just out of curiosity, how was MM rude in his replies to Sam Lane? There was no bad temper on show just answers to her questions and all the others posed from others within the Q&A.
Is it the 1st load of questioning or the 2nd (players on the outer) that is utterly reprehensible behaviour from MM on his retort?
Sorry guys, just cannot see it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:07 pm 
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The needle and the damage done already club
The club is already gone.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:11 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Synbad wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
Synbad wrote:
middle of the road???

nah

we are where we are because we dont have a midfield

most of our list wouldnt get a go at a middle of a road team

half our team wouldnt


Yeah, played finals two out of the last four years, won a final last year, definitely middle of the road.

I am pretty confident Murphy, Gibbs and Judd would get a game at most other clubs. And according to you Thomas is also a gun. There's our core midfield.

Saints were better than us.
Nobody is pretending they should be in grand finals too
Nothing coming through will kill you.


Yes nothing coming through and the list is getting worse, but you asked about now and not the future, and we are a middle of the road list right now, thanks for giving in and agreeing with me..

No middle of the road team has had nothing coming through that's front line for six years


If that was true then we would have won the last six spoons, which we didn't. Although we might win the next six....


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:15 pm 
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We're having a crack no doubt... Were just not good enough.. We Are bottom 4 simple.. Fact is we all bought in to the bs that we were top 4 bound, Ratts ok midfield ok , very mediocre player manager and developer... But he was only one piece if the puzzle. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen but a bottom 4 finish is what we need right now and we need to get some top end talent on out list... The same people here talking shit about Mick, daisy sound like children... I think daisy will prove to be a good pick up, the guy is coming back from a foot reco FFs! I think his endeavor and workrate been terrific, good example for the young blokes and will only get better... Gibbs pat on the back. Also another thing to you folks, the competition has caught up, look at the picks gws have had access to, gold coast, swans recruitment, Geelong, hawks, the miserly defense of freo, tell me why we should be top 4???? How has our recruiting been the last few years??? I'm suck of the bs from the same people on here talking up a big wankfest about nothing... Let's not cry over spilt milk, this is where were at... Bottom 4! And we need to go through a bit if pain ( yet again) to get back to where we need to be.. Culture and consistency of effort, execution has also been not good enough, something Mick's worked hard on instilling in our players and I think you would agree the effort has been there, for the most part the last 6-7wks... The fact is, at best were about 12th-14th!! At best... And that's a super generous call... Scotland retiring, Judd on the way out, Carrazzo ditto, walks playing injured, hendo ditto, Thomas ditto, Waite as frustrating as ever, garlett terribly out of form... Now compare that to 2011 and remembering we've had nothing coming through and so many wasted picks.... Now. Is that Mick's fault??? Weighing ip all those factors should we be a decent side right now in this ever changing, afl competition!??? Weigh it up for yourselves.. :thumbsup:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:16 pm 
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pew1 wrote:
We are the Dumbest football team in the afl. Everything written in this post is correct .I went to the game last night and it was like swanetts knew what we are going to do and away they went, i said years ago watch the syd cats haw style and train over summer to play that style. allk these years and nothing changed and as for malthouse give him a target for 2015 before opening discussions. My fav moment last night was when we went long from a kick in and swans ruckman marked it and i said where is warnock found him loose in chb position the ball was kicked back for another goal.


That happened to me too.

I couldnt believe Warnocks positioning and non rucking when rucking.

4th week in a row....Pathetic

I feel so sorry for him because I too thought he'd be the 2000's version of Harry Madden and he'd dominate for a period as did Harry.
I was wrong.

Warnock needs heavy steroids to build strength he needs and an attitude to give himself a chance at the contest.
Maybe they dont test for Ice or Angel dust, but Warnock needs a @#$%&! kick in the pants.

This is his career and a club has paid overs. Likelihood of that happening again in his life based on current form aint going to happen.

I hope Warnock has invested wisely.
Bring in Wood!

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:17 pm 
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Rexy wrote:
Sydney Blue wrote:
Is Malthouse the right coach to take us forward and develop a premiership team


no-one knows, including the board... but they'll keep signing his cheques !


Yep, he could well be and I'd be happy to back in the changes and development of players under him but we should probably get the independent review (not a Sticks & Bear's annual beer swilling end of year muck up report) to see where we're exactly at, off & on the field.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:17 pm 
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BIRDTOWN wrote:
sinbagger wrote:
bluegirl72 wrote:
Synbad wrote:
So what your saying is the media gives coaches respect?


I'm saying basic manners in private, or public are the way we convey respect to one another.
:smile:


I have to agree, MM behaved shockingly in the way he addressed Sam, he's a grown man and paid to represent our club so he should learn to control his bad temper and not behave like a spoilt brat. Sets a very poor example for his players.


Just out of curiosity, how was MM rude in his replies to Sam Lane? There was no bad temper on show just answers to her questions and all the others posed from others within the Q&A.
Is it the 1st load of questioning or the 2nd (players on the outer) that is utterly reprehensible behaviour from MM on his retort?
Sorry guys, just cannot see it.


Contrast his replies to Sam with his replies to the others, there is a clear difference. I guess this was the first time I'd bothered to watch his post match interview which made it stand out to me. If someone spoke to me like he did to Sam I'd tell him to go and pull his head in quite a robust manner.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:21 pm 
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No1Blue wrote:
We're having a crack no doubt... Were just not good enough.. We Are bottom 4 simple.. Fact is we all bought in to the bs that we were top 4 bound, Ratts ok midfield ok , very mediocre player manager and developer... But he was only one piece if the puzzle. I'm sorry ladies and gentlemen but a bottom 4 finish is what we need right now and we need to get some top end talent on out list... The same people here talking shit about Mick, daisy sound like children... I think daisy will prove to be a good pick up, the guy is coming back from a foot reco FFs! I think his endeavor and workrate been terrific, good example for the young blokes and will only get better... Gibbs pat on the back. Also another thing to you folks, the competition has caught up, look at the picks gws have had access to, gold coast, swans recruitment, Geelong, hawks, the miserly defense of freo, tell me why we should be top 4???? How has our recruiting been the last few years??? I'm suck of the bs from the same people on here talking up a big wankfest about nothing... Let's not cry over spilt milk, this is where were at... Bottom 4! And we need to go through a bit if pain ( yet again) to get back to where we need to be.. Culture and consistency of effort, execution has also been not good enough, something Mick's worked hard on instilling in our players and I think you would agree the effort has been there, for the most part the last 6-7wks... The fact is, at best were about 12th-14th!! At best... And that's a super generous call... Scotland retiring, Judd on the way out, Carrazzo ditto, walks playing injured, hendo ditto, Thomas ditto, Waite as frustrating as ever, garlett terribly out of form... Now compare that to 2011 and remembering we've had nothing coming through and so many wasted picks.... Now. Is that Mick's fault??? Weighing ip all those factors should we be a decent side right now in this ever changing, afl competition!??? Weigh it up for yourselves.. :thumbsup:



You know what?

I'm so glad I read your post after posting before I read the rest of the thread. Spot on.

We have the foundations of a team but its going to take 3-4 years rebuild if we're lucky.

I dare to dream, and my 10yo said today he hopes Carlton win won in his lifetime.
The kid is stuck with them; he's named "Carlton"...well that's his middle name now.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:23 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
pew1 wrote:
We are the Dumbest football team in the afl. Everything written in this post is correct .I went to the game last night and it was like swanetts knew what we are going to do and away they went, i said years ago watch the syd cats haw style and train over summer to play that style. allk these years and nothing changed and as for malthouse give him a target for 2015 before opening discussions. My fav moment last night was when we went long from a kick in and swans ruckman marked it and i said where is warnock found him loose in chb position the ball was kicked back for another goal.


That happened to me too.

I couldnt believe Warnocks positioning and non rucking when rucking.

4th week in a row....Pathetic

I feel so sorry for him because I too thought he'd be the 2000's version of Harry Madden and he'd dominate for a period as did Harry.
I was wrong.

Warnock needs heavy steroids to build strength he needs and an attitude to give himself a chance at the contest.
Maybe they dont test for Ice or Angel dust, but Warnock needs a @#$%&! kick in the pants.

This is his career and a club has paid overs. Likelihood of that happening again in his life based on current form aint going to happen.

I hope Warnock has invested wisely.
Bring in Wood!


Did you see the goal that we nearly touched in the line? Warnock couldn't be bothered running to the goal square to try and block, he just ambled around the half fwd line and shrugged his shoulders afterwards when the guy who nearly touched it (hendo I think) motioned at him afterwards.

Yes it's only one goal of ten for the quarter and maybe it would have still been a goal but it's that sort if effort that we need to get better.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:25 pm 
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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
We have bigger issues than worrying about MM behaviour or manner with journalists....

What about franklin poleaxing our captain......what message does that send?


What about Franklin making sure he shouldered into Jamo after kicking one his goals, then walking around Yarran while sharing a joke with him immediately after?

No passion.


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Mosquito Fleet wrote:
We have bigger issues than worrying about MM behaviour or manner with journalists....

What about franklin poleaxing our captain......what message does that send?


What about Franklin making sure he shouldered into Jamo after kicking one his goals, then walking around Yarran while sharing a joke with him immediately after?

No passion.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 6:29 pm 
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Mickstar wrote:
Anyhow,i reckon it was too many blokes had too many tasks................ball watching ? nah ! it was the complete opposite actually with all our players not taking there eyes off Sydney players.Far too many players watching there oponent and not enough watching the ball ie. classic example third qquarter........the whole 5' 11' of Luke Parker taking a PACK mark against 3 Carlton players coz they were all watching a Swans player instead of the incoming ball.And one of those 3 Carlton players was Levi.Effen pathetic ! and im not blamin' Levi coz his head is full of so many micro instructions he's confused.
And why were so many of our players on the wrong side of the pack in ballups near the Sydney goal ? its ok if they sqqquirt the ball out the back for a cheapie,i'll cop that.But when we continually let 'em waltz through the opened front door unimpeded then i give up............terrible setups last night.We made 'em look a whole lot better than they are..........terrible stoppage coaches performance.You can bag the players if you must,but our coaching box were asleep.


Good post Mickstar.

It was so easy. so repetitve over the 3rd, we were asleep or badly coached, and the same happen Geelong for 4 quarters.
I know the Swans are good, but we proved they werent that good in the 1st 2nd and 4th Qtrs...or did they put on the gas when they needed...they're that good?????

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What I really noticed was that at EVERY contest while we tried to bullock the ball FORWARD and either lost it or caused a ball up, the Swans always handpased BACKWARD until they were free and then ran it out around the contest. And there was always a free swans player at the back of the contest no matter how many times they had to handpass backwards there was always a free player at the end of the chain. Sometimes the swans players did not even look, they just handpassed backwards blind because they knew there would be team mate there.

Crap coaching blues.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 13, 2014 7:38 pm 
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Watched the first half before having to head out and was pleasantly surprised with the endeavour.

Thought to myself we may not get pantsed after all and stupidly enough had a bit of spring in the step.

Got a score update at 3qtr time (from a Sydney supporter to make it even worse) and I'm like WTF? Thank Christ I didn't get to watch it. Absolutely unacceptable to fall away like that.

We have a myriad of issues. The sobering thought is we will have to rebuild again, after having done so not that long ago, and without experiencing any real joy from this supposed rebuild. Can't even trust we will get it right this time.

Makes me wonder why I am still so emotionally invested in the club. Seriously. Brings me very little joy at the moment because we are so mediocre on and off field.

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