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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:15 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
SO much for blooding new players - no Holman no Graham (Mick must hate him). Instead the guys who have proudly led us to 5 losses in a row and have us a game off the bottom are rewarded with games. What do you have to do to get dropped from this team?


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:17 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
SO much for blooding new players - no Holman no Graham (Mick must hate him). Instead the guys who have proudly led us to 5 losses in a row and have us a game off the bottom are rewarded with games. What do you have to do to get dropped from this team?


Play like Garlett and Waite, that'll get you dropped


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 5:44 pm 
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gerry atric wrote:
SO much for blooding new players - no Holman no Graham (Mick must hate him)


FFS :roll:

We have 7 players in the team who have played less than 40 games, including a rookie who made his debut last week.

Holman & Graham (& Sheehan) will get a run at some stage, but why rush them all in at once? Particularly if they are not ready.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:20 pm 
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Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:35 pm 
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he has been told to shave those damn sideburns so many times and just wont listen

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 6:54 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:
Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.

What needs to be explained? He's a young player who has some areas of his game that need working on and he isn't the sort of player we are short of. I have no idea whether or not there are off field issues, but why give a vague rumour any oxygen when there are clear on field reasons why he's struggling to get a game?

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:03 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.

What needs to be explained? He's a young player who has some areas of his game that need working on and he isn't the sort of player we are short of. I have no idea whether or not there are off field issues, but why give a vague rumour any oxygen when there are clear on field reasons why he's struggling to get a game?


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Personally, I believe it's just that we can't have Curnow, Carrazzo & McLean all in the same side and as such Graham is being given time to develop in the VFL. His time will come.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:26 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.

What needs to be explained? He's a young player who has some areas of his game that need working on and he isn't the sort of player we are short of. I have no idea whether or not there are off field issues, but why give a vague rumour any oxygen when there are clear on field reasons why he's struggling to get a game?


:clap:

Personally, I believe it's just that we can't have Curnow, Carrazzo & McLean all in the same side and as such Graham is being given time to develop in the VFL. His time will come.

And if he was good enough, and his attitude is right he would be an automatic selection above those you have just mentioned. If he is such a talent he should be their now. Is he lazy,does he not listen to to the coach, he should get his arse into gear and stop making excuses that he is young and still learning.Pathetic excuses we keep dishing out for pampered soft cocks.Bloody sick of it.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:34 pm 
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Trigger wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.

What needs to be explained? He's a young player who has some areas of his game that need working on and he isn't the sort of player we are short of. I have no idea whether or not there are off field issues, but why give a vague rumour any oxygen when there are clear on field reasons why he's struggling to get a game?


:clap:

Personally, I believe it's just that we can't have Curnow, Carrazzo & McLean all in the same side and as such Graham is being given time to develop in the VFL. His time will come.

And if he was good enough, and his attitude is right he would be an automatic selection above those you have just mentioned. If he is such a talent he should be their now. Is he lazy,does he not listen to to the coach, he should get his arse into gear and stop making excuses that he is young and still learning.Pathetic excuses we keep dishing out for pampered soft cocks.Bloody sick of it.


Do you know there is an attitude problem? I'm told he works hard. Maybe MM is just giving the McLeans, Carrazzo's of the world their last games? We don't know. People are making some strange assumptions without direct knowledge.

I would like to see him play and ahead of the guys I mentioned BUT I can see the reasoning for what is happening. As much as I want to see kids play, and I would play Graham ahead of McLean, lets wait until the end of the season when we will get a true indication of how they are viewed inside the club.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:34 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
SO much for blooding new players - no Holman no Graham (Mick must hate him)


FFS :roll:

We have 7 players in the team who have played less than 40 games, including a rookie who made his debut last week.

Holman & Graham (& Sheehan) will get a run at some stage, but why rush them all in at once? Particularly if they are not ready.


..give the man a cigar..

....plus factor in watto has played a couple of games over the season, kids do get played.. ..but they also need to be capable and ready.. ..our lack of depth hurts us, if they were good they'd get the chance..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:38 pm 
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aboynamedsue wrote:
gerry atric wrote:
SO much for blooding new players - no Holman no Graham (Mick must hate him)


FFS :roll:

We have 7 players in the team who have played less than 40 games, including a rookie who made his debut last week.

Holman & Graham (& Sheehan) will get a run at some stage, but why rush them all in at once? Particularly if they are not ready.


Abns who are the seven with less than 40? Menzel, rowe, docherty, casboult, can't get much further. Bottom sides often have inexperienced players. The Pies had ten with less than 50 games last week and they are in the 8. If we don't give a few new players a chance against the saints, the one side in the afl who are clearly worse than us, when will we. We have lost 5 in a row, is that all the fault of waite and armfield? Has Graham ever played a full game. Is he seriously going to be a liability ag the saints without hayes if he played ahead of lumbering brock? I just want to see something different, some hope from the dross we have served up every week. From the mediocrity we have barely raised above for 14 years.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:51 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
Trigger wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
aboynamedsue wrote:
emtwenty wrote:
Hearing there may be off field reasons as to why Graham can't get a game. Not 100% sure but it would explain things.

What needs to be explained? He's a young player who has some areas of his game that need working on and he isn't the sort of player we are short of. I have no idea whether or not there are off field issues, but why give a vague rumour any oxygen when there are clear on field reasons why he's struggling to get a game?


:clap:

Personally, I believe it's just that we can't have Curnow, Carrazzo & McLean all in the same side and as such Graham is being given time to develop in the VFL. His time will come.

And if he was good enough, and his attitude is right he would be an automatic selection above those you have just mentioned. If he is such a talent he should be their now. Is he lazy,does he not listen to to the coach, he should get his arse into gear and stop making excuses that he is young and still learning.Pathetic excuses we keep dishing out for pampered soft cocks.Bloody sick of it.


Do you know there is an attitude problem? I'm told he works hard. Maybe MM is just giving the McLeans, Carrazzo's of the world their last games? We don't know. People are making some strange assumptions without direct knowledge.

I would like to see him play and ahead of the guys I mentioned BUT I can see the reasoning for what is happening. As much as I want to see kids play, and I would play Graham ahead of McLean, lets wait until the end of the season when we will get a true indication of how they are viewed inside the club.


It's not an attitude issue. But, if what I'm told is true, he should probably stop getting blind drunk and ejected from club functions.......


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:52 pm 
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oh boy

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:53 pm 
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..what a doofus..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:54 pm 
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..culture..



..rabble..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:55 pm 
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..awwwww, Stevens..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:55 pm 
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Doesn't explain why Mick never mentioned Graham when he discusses the kids coming through. Always mentioned Johnson, Holman and now even Sheahan. Never really highlights Graham.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:57 pm 
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emtwenty wrote:

It's not an attitude issue. But, if what I'm told is true, he should probably stop getting blind drunk and ejected from club functions.......

Geez, what sort of rabble are we? Surely the cautionary tales of Fev and Bootsma shd convince silly young men of what they stand to lose and how ephemeral an AFL career is.


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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 7:59 pm 
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Effes wrote:
Carlton has finalised its side for Sunday’s match against St Kilda at Etihad Stadium.

The Blues have made two changes, bringing in Simon White and Tom Bell.

Mitch Robinson is out suspended while Dennis Armfield has been omitted.

Armfield, along with Nick Graham and Nick Holman, have been named as the emergencies.

It means Holman is unlikely to make his debut this week, but last week’s new inclusion Blaine Johnson looks set to run out for his second AFL game.

The match kicks off at Etihad Stadium on Sunday at 1.10pm AEST.



..Simon White, miracle man..!!.. ..he actually gets through 'The Test'..

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 04, 2014 8:01 pm 
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graham isnt very good

not worth all the talk anyway

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