Eddie looked in terrible form, fumbling balls he would normally have no trouble with. did get better as the game went on though

..hitout to adv was 28%.. ..his ruckwork is good, our midfield set-ups are shizen..

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..Krooz also chimed in with 17, at 82%eff as well..

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28% of how many? Using % to prove a point only works if the two (or more) subjects under comparison have a more or less equal baseline to compare. No dirty statistical tricks, Kahuna. We're on to you.

North got more hitouts on the night.

He had a good game but he lost the ruck contest.

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..used only percentage to show that he has tap skill.. ..he had 29 hitouts at 28%.. ..Goldy had 41 hitouts at 32%, but was involved in nearly all ruck contests, so had more opportunity and when not up against Krooz was up against an avg pinch hitter.. ..Krooz is getting clear taps to space, but our midfield set-ups are terrible, this season we've been poorly organised.. ..just look at how dangerous he was in the F50 stoppages.. ..Krooz matched Goldy in the ruck, and smashed him [and most] around the ground.. ..Krooz will be in most ppl's votes last night, would do well in the coaches, and could be getting ump votes too..

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I really think MM should consider him as a sub more often.

His clean skills late in the game really stopped any panick last week.

For a team like us (like a few sides this year incl Norf) that have trouble holding leads the sub is no longer a demotion but an important player.

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Thanks for the correction KKK, but you get my point, how is that players who were dirty grubs when they played turn into the biggest sooks as coaches like Scott and Clarkson, are they that pissweak that they can only cop it going one way?

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North fans are funny.
They re like dole bludgers who complain about not getting paid enough.

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The North fans should ask their coach why, when they have more talls than we do, he didn't have one or two of them take some of the ruck to give Goldstien a break.

In the end Kreuzers's ability to cover the ground was worth more than a couple of hit outs.

A truly dumb decision.

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Our midfield set up is hopeless..and has been for a while now.
Maybe the mids are just not confident in Kreuzer dominating the ruck like Warnock can and don't pay attention.
When Kreuzer taps to the right spot there's no one there...is that Kreuzer's fault or the mids?

I think the mids are just disorganised and there's no plan other tha the tagging plan.

I did see good signs.

Hendo and Waite in the forwardline with the 3 A's and one of Menzel/Rowe/Casboult/ Warnock/Kreuzer, with cameos from Murphy Judd or Gibbs...there's a 2014 forwardline...if Waite can stand up....he and we are due for some luck: 2014?

Need some attccking class added in the midfield. Carrazzo out of form, Murphy not running well, Judd can't burst clear, Curnow is opponent conscious, Cachia looks good....time for Betts Garlett and Yarran to be running through the middle as attacking mids.

If the umpires paid every free kick they could against Jammo it would be embarrassing. The guy has to learn to just stick to the legit stuff because in finals he'll be a burden.

Jammo stays because we haven't got any alternative, and with Kennedy down the forwardline we need to add class to the KPD not take away.

Watson was impressive and lucky at times....well done.
McInnes had to play on a much taller opponent and still defended well.

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Very happy to have racked up two wins in a row at Etihad against our two biggest bogey teams.

I thought for sure we were going to lose the game, the last quarter was pretty hard viewing.

That said, both teams had 7 scoring shots so we could just as easily have won by a comfortable margin. And, well, we won, so we have to be happy that we were able to hold on when they had a massive roll on with 4 or so minutes left in the game.

When Harvey was running in for that goal I thought for sure it was going to be the only thing he would do for the night and would then celebrate like he won the flag. Aside from some superb individual moments from our boys (notably Yarran's mark and Hendo's skill to set up Army) the bad bounce for Harvey was easily the highlight of the game.

There were 6 lowlights though and if anyone is lucky they didn't play in the 70s it is Lindsay Thomas. He would have been dealt with by most teams about 100+ games ago. @#$%&! litte shit.

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Oh, we also have to take some heart from winning the last couple of games with a lot of our better players being well down on their best. Really, we've won ugly these last two weeks and after the preceding month that is a massive positive.

We might have a few flaws in our list, which sound like they'll be addressed at season's end, but the list we do have can play a lot better than it has been for the last month or so.

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This^

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Norths a good team. Should of beaten Geelong and Hawthorn & have been unlucky in other losses.

Add that to the fact we traditionally struggle against them, and it makes last night a pretty good win.

Yes I know he was very good last week but said a while ago he will be the most overrated $800000 a year player next year. And add to the fact that he is the most overrated $1m+ player this year.
Will see odd glimpses from now on but his career is coming to an incredibly speedy end.

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I don't particularly care what the % are. I know what I see and that is his ruck work is terrible.
As an amateur footballer our ruckman could see where we where before he competed for the ball. Surely Krooz has some idea where his midfielders are befor the ball is thrown up, so why does he continuously put the ball to his feet? Sorry I know what I see at every contest and the very reason he chases his own taps!

Mids are suppose to be on the move when receiving the tap and letting the ruck know were they are by using their voice (planning were the ball will bounce and what position you should be in isn't a plan).

Yes Kruz usually either side steps his opponent, taps to his left short and on occasion rips one.

He should focus more on his leap than were his opponent is as he takes his eyes off the ball moments before he jumps, making it hard for himself for the best judgement,.

Kreuzer could be a very good tapruck but he is been mismanaged.

What the !@#$ is the midfield coach doing anyway.

Kruezer was exceptional. Yes Goldstein won more taps but ruckwork includes followinhg up the tap, clearing space for the midfielders and being a physical presence around the stoppages.
His follow up work was excellent.
As for his hit zones, its up to the midfielders to play to the strengths of the ruckman. Not vice versa.
If Kruez is more comfortable hitting the ball to certain areas, our mids have no excuse not to be there.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

On Before the Game, Zac was asked about Scott's lucky not be playing in the 70s comment....

.....without missing a beat he replied with "Absolutely, the pay was rubbish".

Gold.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.