complete rebuild is over the top mate. we still have a dozen very good players who are 24 and under. need to get someone who can take those guys to the next level pronto.

Couldnt agree more

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Matty Kruzer you star!

The 50 was complete and utter shit, the dropped mark inexcusable for a man of his ability & who gives a shit about supercoach & dream team points.

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yep. didn't hear anyone saying we deserved to win last week, with a very ordinary 2.9 in the last qtr.

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Thank Tim...

Joseph was forced to kick across the ground after Darling pressured him and wouldn't let him past. AJ couldn't go down the line. Even Yarran has turned it over against Essendon* and Port by directing it back towards the centre corridor. You have to ask why Darling was able to break free with no one goal side and picking him up.

No instead we heard the bad kicking used as an excuse for losing....WC kicked just as bad if not worse last night yet still won....

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So what is the excuse, (reason if you prefer), ?

Er... we DIDN'T win last week.

WC won last night.

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I would be happy if we kick 2 goals nine and we bloody win - we didnt win last week after kicking 2 goals nine - ordinary - we didnt kick 2 goals 9 this week and still lost

the whole idea is about winning not having brave loses

we had many brave losses when we werent good - now we have a team that shouldnt have brave losses it should with that amount of talent win at least 75% of the time

Just some personal thoughts on Jacobs

When I first saw him in the maggoos I liked what I saw. Sure he didnt have the athletic nature of other ruckman, but he was a smart footy player. He put his body in the right spots. I thought he had a lot of potential.

For some insane reason we were hell bent on getting Warnock who had showed not as much potential IMO and once we got him one of the four was going at the end of 2009 or 2010. I cant remember which year he left but he was obviously the one going
Kreuzer the number one draft pick
Hampson the athlete and project player
Warnock who got what was it a 3 or 4 year deal

Then Jacobs plays that awesome final against the Swans. No way could Warnock ever play that game.

He has no presence.He couldnt even outmark a midget in the last quarter giving away a free kick.
Jacobs wouldnt allow that to happen.
Hampson has very little footy brains
Kreuzer in my opinion aint a ruckman
Warnock is shit

To top this off we gave up pick 24 for him and Broadbent, Beames, Shiels, Reddon and Hannebery were all available.

Bottom line. Imagine Jacobs knocking it down to one of these dudes.

No brainer. The staff who oversaw this trade well and truly [REDACTED] up.

I admit I am huge Sammy fan but it doesnt cloud my judgement on this trade.

Big stuff up everyway you look at it.

Yeah same here - great observation and the most stark reflection of the quality of coaching I think. Every WC player knowing exactly their role and executing.

I think when we do do 'the basics' its in the kind of maniacal fashion of the 3rd QTR. Mindless and unsustainable.

no, not at all

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It doesnt even though you think it does.
What do you think about Warnock.
Do you have an opinion ?

Have a think, kk.

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STURDYISM!!

You have a very short memory. Who was his predecessor?

That guy coached another team to 2 flags and made the prelims 10 years running.

So something in the water at Carlton and its culture might be what is the root to ther problem.


One of the stories of that era youre refering to is Ratten having a go at Pagan in the changerooms. Ratten was captain at the time and he was retired a fraction early McKay made captain.

I wonder how he would feel now .... not easy being a coach.. and Ratts had alot more to back him up than an empty cupborad Denis had.

Anyway... worse Carlton coach in 50 years was Ian Stewart and then Ratts..........

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The weagles player clearly chopped Jamo's arms to knock the ball clear, I was sitting very close by and had a clear view...

Collins being the sub is the clearest and most definitive reason why Ratten is a flowering elastic (that's rhymimg slang)

Collins plays his best game for the club against Geelong. He is someone who needs to feel as though he belongs. Last week he makes progress. So what soes bozo Ratts do? Sub him!!!!! Why couldn't he sub one of Joseph, Ellard, Armfield. Touhy, maybe even Scotland?????

How could he sub any of them.......THEY WOULD HAVE ALL HAD F$%6G TAGGING JOBS TO PERFORM.

What sort of man management is that? Collins is bursting with energy and vibrancy and yes he will make mistakes. But if he's on the ground long enough, he has opportunities for redemptiion. Brett Ratten, you have NFI about coaching at AFL level. Fall on your sword and give Carlton a chance to start again.

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Watched the replay and jaysus we were shafted by the umpires when the ball was in our F50. How Kerr didn't get a HTB decision when he ran with it and got pinged by 206 after a ball up is one of those mysterious things that just happen in games and that even out all in the end.