I don't believe for a minute that Henderson and Kreuzer can't be marking forwards.

Honestly, the chances these guys were given to mark were zero.

Kreuzer seemed a wasted talent at FF. That's always going to be the case when the ball doesn't pass the HF line.

When the kicking was dirsted towards his space most of the time the kicks were hopeful to say the least. Hopeful they are going to make the distance, or that they will be favourable to Kreuzers positioning when there were other shorter options. Does that remind you of anything?

The Swans did flood big time when we had the ball. They had time to flood because we really were slow to take the ball forward. There was no space in our forwardline, and our kicking was very ordinary.

I though Hammer looked better as a leading forward because of his pace.

Our small backmen were a bit loose. No wonder Jetta looked so good. That was really frustrating and something we did have control of.

We need to take a leaf out of Bower's book on breaking lines. It's imperative in the modern game, especially against the likes of Saints, Cats, Doggies and Crows. I'm sure Army, Simmo, Walker and murphy will help in that area.

Like Sydney Blue suggested, I couldn't see anything amazing about Sydney's structure...what structure? They just ran the ball and shared the ball better, and were more disciplined in manning up.

Game could have gone either way.

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Agreed. I do hope Ratts realises that Kreuzer at FF DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

We have potentially the greatest Ruckman-come-second-effort-bust-your-gut-able-to-go-all-day-HUGE-engine-great-delivery-go-and-go-again-great-under-his-knees-loves-running Ruckman in the history of history, and we're playing him out of the goalsquare?

Nup.

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I guess if you were really intent on winning the match you wouldn't go in to the match with four ruckmen.
1) kreuzer
2) sauce
3) hampson
4) warnock.

i guess we learnt a bit more about our rucks, but our forward line still seems a bit undecided. Either way, entries into the forward line need a lot of work in terms of speed of movement and positioning.

This could have been written up just about anytime over the last ten years and it would have ben the smartest thing youve read.... but hey.... ten years later... its still smart.....

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The Swans are not necessarily the fitter outfit, they're just managing their training loads differently. Does anyone even remember how we looked in our first NAB cup match last year? About the same, and we scraped over the line.

Fev not doing as much running work at Carlton is because he hadn't had consecutive pre-seasons in a very long time. On top of that, he didn't pull his finger out in that respect until mid way through last season.

I'm now near-certain VB is a low-rung media crony. Who else asks such bland and open questions in threads (half the time without reading similar efforts) ad nauseam, then smashes the panic button in similar fashion when things go wrong. Sick of reading such drivel.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I wonder how Mclean would have gone if had played for Collingwood on Friday night and I wonder how Ball would have fared if he had played for us last night?

Identical types.........both slow, both lack penetration in their kicking, both fail to make space...............both playing their first game for their new club. One looks ok and the other all at sea. Why?

Beacuse, Ball played in a cohesive, well organised, well structured unit and the other played in a unit that was all at sea.

I wouldn't say that.

It's just an opportunity for people with serious doubts about our administration and coaching staff to be vindicated for a bit...

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i hate to stop making you feel better but fev was just 18 when he kicked 12 goals in that pre season game v collingwood. the signs were there from very early on that he was going to be very good.

First point, McLean is a good long kick.

Second point, and I have iterated this one dozens of times now, is that Collingwood's type-cast structure falls down when it matters most. Why? Because coaches always get greedy the further they push towards finals, and the system to work at its best requires younger players learning new roles within the structure all the time so that there can be regular progression in line with regular list turnover. Dale Thomas is a shining example of that.

Further to this, it makes players without the smarts for long-term AFL careers look good for about 10 games, which further overvalues them in the eyes of their own club if they again get greedy.

I'd much rather grow players' capacity to develop tactics than give them simple reads so that they crack under pressure.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Signs were there for Henderson too... took Fev another 6 years.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

I love this post!!

I've tried to explain this many times and failed miserably....you put it well.

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It was a terrible scrambly game to watch; and was never going to reach great heights as a spectacle.

But......it was a NAB season opener in Sydney; and with some of our guns missing; we only went down by 12 points.

So......this is not the time to push panic buttons......this is a "No Fevola" learning curve which may take a while.

I thought our kids showed enough to suggest they can only improve....I'm willing to give them time to show us they have much to offer.

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Anyone else read the thread from Bunbury 10 days before Round 1 last year?

viewtopic.php?f=2&t=24153&hilit=bunbury

I still don't care about results in the pre-season, I have faith in the FD, come Round 1 if we lose to Richmond I'll be banned for years.

If we lose to Richmond in Round 1 i think that will just about be the end of this sites existence

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

That mjonc guy was so cool.

What an uninspiring advertisement for any prospective member at this time of year. That's not the way to sell our product.


Davies and Lucas showed moments of good instinct in an otherwise lamentable display by the club.


Geez.....

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There's so much I could say...

You really shouldnt comments when you make comments when you cant work out who is playing on who.

I agree......Davies and Lucas showed heaps for first gamers.

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

I see Virgin Blue was the same Doom Merchant that he is now

One got tagged the other didnt?? Both played against different teams?? One is better than the other??