Are you sure he was a journo, mate?.....I know he had a Bachelor of Arts and Economics and also a Business Admin. degree.

He turned a P.R. business into the largest of it's kind in Australia.

Whatever....we need someone like him now.....the closest we have is Greg Lee; who must be despairing about things ATM.

Unfortunately a lot of these people are dead and the next generation of them were driven away by John Elliott.

Don't see Graham Smorgan (who is a 2nd generation - what do they say about 2nd generation with money) having the charsima/gravitas to pull all the competing interests together.

We need to see the Fahours, Grollos, DeLutis, Mathiesons, Mitchells getting involved to turn the ship around.

EGM - EGM - EGM - EGM - EGM - EGM - EGM - EGM.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

What the article points out mate is....you've got to have absolutely ruthless, smart, connected, Carlton loving people who'll stop at nothing to put us back where we belong.

Mind if I start putting up some stuff later on when 99 onwards rolls around?

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Writer for SuperCoach Paige www.scpaige.com.au
Twitter - @johnfeeney24

Sure! ........I'm just putting up stuff for the benefit of the many
posters who've only heard about the successful days.....(1968-1995);
and not read the Newpaper reports of those days; photos etc.....whatever....I only really started the thread to fill
in the hiatus between our end of season and preseason.

"Herald Sun"...Saturday September 23-1995.

This is a report written by Mike Sheahan about the
success of Carlton as a professional AFL Club, on the
morning of our Preliminary Final Game against North
Melbourne in 1995....(which was played at night)

They had 134 people on staff; and over 80 responsible
for getting the team onto the ground.

Interesting to read how players from other Clubs
"can't believe their good fortune to be at Carlton"

You'd have to say that this "SUCCESS" mindset has
unfortunately disappeared from the once all powerful
and even arrogant Carlton.

I had a lot of trouble cutting up the article and pasting
it all together with glue; and then drastically resizing it...
.sorry....the best I can do!

Reading that article depresses me.

PS: Nice photo Mike.

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I AM DISENFRANCHISED

The next one I'll be putting up is about a year later....in 1996; where the football world is still in awe of the Carlton Football Club.

This next article spells out more precisely where the success came from and why.

I agree with you wholeheartedly, but I am lamenting the fact that there dont appear to be any of the people you describe about at the moment.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

I think we were 10 wins and 2 losses at Round 12 (Season 1996) and 2 in a row was looking a real possibility.

In fact I am of the opinion that we massively underachieved with the list we had in the mid 90s. We should have won 4 in a row. (93,94,95,96).

But if we had have won 93 (like we should have ) we might have kept Athorn, Sholl and Powell on our list, and we would have been in real trouble.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

If my memory serves me correctly (and it seldom does these days), we totally lost the plot when Deisel got 9 weeks. We failed to focus on football and instead focussed on what flower the AFL had become

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"Carlton's most loyal, their bruised and battered egos now seemingly a bad dream, drank beers, murdered pies and cheered every time Judd touched the ball."

No....Diesel had a fairly good year in '96, but had to have his 5th knee operation in November of that year.....his knees were bad even when he was with Sydney, which is why he became so proficient on his left foot.

With the 9weeks you mentioned.....that came about in 1992 when he admitted signing dual contracts with Sydney and Carlton, causing the AFL to suspend him for the first 9 weeks of 1992.

No, Diesel copped 6 weeks (was deregistered by the AFL for that).

The 9 weeks he copped for pushing an umpire out of his face was in 1997. We took it to court and won, then the AFL won it on appeal. Diesel then retired.

You have to be Gavin Wanganeen to have a license to manhandle an umpire.

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"Hence you will not say that Greeks fight like heroes but that heroes fight like Greeks"?

Winston Churchill

Jeez mate....you're right again....that's what I get for drinking Bourbon with my brother in law last night.....it was alright 'tho....

I still reckon Diesel's deregistration was dodgy too. From memory it was because he was receiving dodgy payments during his playing days at Sydney, when Alan Schwab was an AFL appointed administrator.

Warbs, have you got any of the articles from Diesel's deregistration to clear this up? Could be a memory lapse combined with my "Carlton's being persecuted" complex on my behalf

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

I'm sorry Deano....had a quick look and found nothing better than this potted bio.....I'll try and have a better look thru all of the stuff ASAP.

This is the telling part for mine:

The Blues were stunned by a League finding on Williams' contract during his Sydney days. He admitted signing dual contracts and was suspended....

I'm convinced that was when Schwab was running the place - i.e. AFL endorsed salary cap cheating, for which Carlton were robbed of their new recruit for nine weeks, when we'd done nothing wrong.

The bastards have always been out to get us

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Oh look; I agree with you all of the way.....the hatred for Carlton....and Elliott; knew no bounds.

All other supporters hated us for our success....now they just make snide remarks and laugh at our ineptitude.....even the guy who cuts our lawns said to me yesterday...."Jeez....Carlton's going alright aren't they?".....and he's a good bloke....it's more "What the hells happened to Carlton?"

The wooden spoons and the continuing bad publicity about the Board infighting, with new names popping up as possible contenders all the time, is compounded by things such as this "proposed" Complex?

When George Harris and Co. did it.....they just did it.....they didn't go on and on about it....they just did it.

and it's all that which will make number 17 all the more sweet.

The bastards reckon we were arrogant before - they've seen nothin' yet.

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Richard Pratt - A Carlton legend.

Yep....Talking about arrogance; thru the 70's and 80's, we were lucky enough to often be in the Clubrooms/Changerooms after a win; and after singing the song; there was
always the part I loved...
.."DID WE WIN?.....WE SHIT IN".......