I understand where you are coming from Synbad.

I agree that we must plan for the future, and always aspire to get the best for Carlton FC, in good times and in bad. There are no guarantees in life (except death and taxes), and what I point out may seem to you as a negligent position, in that I may be assuming that everything is just dandy and she'll be right mate. I don't believe that leaving our present position to fate is proactive. I'm not suggesting this at all.

I don't want you changing one bit, for me or anybody, and whatever you do I advise you to not subscribe to the thought for one minute that...

"We no longer have to begin planning for the future... everything will automatically fall into place in 3 or 4 years for Walker , Murphy ,Kennedy,Blackwell because on our pay roll today we have Kouta and Lance...". That leaves our future to chance.

I am just focussing on what we have for 2006 in terms of leadership, and the benefits they do bring to the club today, as there is little choice to do otherwise, and I refute your perception that I'm attempting to set you straight. As mentioned I don't want you to change one bit.

The only point I have made related to your summation of our leadership challenges, is the methodology that gives you an outcome of ZILCH. You seem to have missed this. In this, I am expolring the validity of your conclusion, hence I have measured the scenario myself and given reasons why I came to the conclusion that there isn't ,and couldn't be ZILCH on offer from our existing leaders. I will leave the judgement on the validity of conclusions to others, including yourself.

In the meantime as much as I've tried, I cannot for the life of me see ZILCH on offer...or maybe it's your mode of expression that I haven't adapted to, due to my recent and brief involvement with TC. If so, I will catch on with time.

What you are doing for the betterment of the Carlton FC is looking for a brighter future and keeping the bastards honest. That's great and I support this, whether some consider that negative or not, I don't care, I see it just as an alternative opinion. Aim high; and that you do well.

I too aim high too, but just in any business' situational analysis, one must always look at what you have got, as well as what you haven't got. Without the interference of emotions. Neglecting what you have got sometimes results in closing the business down or sell up, because management can't see any light, it's put in the 'too hard' basket. I want a reason to continue to see the light...from a different angle, that's all.

And finally, IMO the light is not 3-4 years away, it's 2, depending of course on what we consider 'light' to be.

Don't go changing.

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

Sound like a Billy Joel song.

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Looking forward to seeing our potential realised.

bondi, bondi, bondi..........i'd love ya, but ya not the right colour!

great read and i love this bit......

"I want a reason to continue to see the light...from a different angle, that's all.

And finally, IMO the light is not 3-4 years away, it's 2, depending of course on what we consider 'light' to be.

g'day and good on ya and of course don't YOU go changing!

THE EMPIRE WILL STRIKE BACK....and with it the most beautiful LIGHT show

Some people take the lump sum, splurge it on toys, holidays, etc, then get the pension.

Yeah but then you still only get to live on $200 pw or something....

Pensioners are our new poor class.

Paid taxes all their lives and have been sold down the river...


Unfortunately for them... they didnt understand what modern life would do to them without proper planning...

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Just call me Tom....

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Thornton maybe ok - but until he removes the sooky la la shit out of his game evrytime he is beaten, then NOPE.

Just grit your teeth, bite your lip, and give the player an evil, determined stare, stop waving your arms around and pulling faces kid.

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hey serious editing or what????

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

I reckon.

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"We used to sit around and talk about how bad the game plan was." Anthony Koutoufides

the fight of the playground was p*%$ing people off...you couldn't even stick to the topic at hand...I'm tipping danny or Synbad wouldn't even make our leadership group...

*Sniffs up some of the steam coming out of Mrs Caz's ears*

Ahh good for the sinuses.

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

Glad to be of service jimmae

Hmmm.... smaller group of regular posters posting, less interesting reading (except training reports), less internal info, more and more sniping at each other by a small group of posters...... TC is getting slightly boring.

mikkey wrote:


Spot on mikkey - i'm getting sick of thread after thread being sabbotaged by a couple of agenda-pushers!

Does the suggestion of a mentor program that provides players with pseudo-senior experience and past-players with an avenue to be a regular part of the club count as an agenda?

Because I'll push that barrow up a vertical cliff face if neccessary!

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29 different attributes,
And only 7 that you like;
20 ways to see the world,
Or 20 ways to start a fight.

na you go ahead Jimmae.

Apologies Mickey and anyone else, its hard to remember late at night that others come on during the day and have no idea what's happening.

swatzstikas for you Mrs C

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Love you too danny

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This type of slight is alien in the more cultured part of the world - Walsh. Its up there with mad dogs, Englishmen and the midday sun!

Why dont you then add something instead of complaining luca???

there is nothing worse than someone complaining that others arent making their lives more interesting for them is there????

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