Come on FFS . Treating Hawthorn like they are reigning triple Premiership side is as pathetic as it gets . Sure , they are an up and coming side with a lot of promise but nothing more than that . We should be going into this game with belief . I"m backin " us to bounce back .

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Sort out our slow and small forward line and the 2nd ruck and we have game on.
Add a bit more speed.

One week at a time.

Nothing wrong with SOS in backline with Weiters. We needed 2 of SOS, such was the influence of Kemp.
I don't know why Harry doesn't lead? Maybe its because the smalls aren't opening up the forward line and offering genuine options.

I think we can win this. That's footy.
Don't get too high, and don't get too low.

IN: Curnow and Fantasia for a start
OUT: Motlop and Evans for a start

I think when Harry rucks Gov and Curnow look more dangerous than Kemp and Curnow.
Have to have a think about Young and what he can bring or the opposite.

Gov forward and Kemp out....speed

Boyd/ Carroll in backline....speed

Will White for Fogarty....speed

Binns is a big NO from me. Ditto Moir.

Like I was saying during the preseason our depth is the issue if we suffer a few injuries.
Otherwise we need to take risks with our new quicker types who have shown a bit over the preseason.
Eg IMHO White and Carroll showed more than Motlop and Evans, and Fog

Thinking cap on top of my hope hat on.

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Thanks Mickstar. I believe. Why not?

Its like we are the old bulls and the young bulls want to dessert us for something greener on the other side of the fence.

If they bleed, we can kill them.

Hope we are looking for blood and turning the result around.

Can't see why we wont improve on round 1 with a Curnow to add firepower forward when Harry rucks.
And I hate watching Harry or Cripps ruck.

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Yes Bondi , I agree Charles will make a massive difference . And give that kid White a crack . Contrary to what a lot think I would stick with Haynes and Kemp . Both are far better than they showed last night . Kemp is a classic third banana and allowed to play that role I think he will eventually excell ................... mate , I am as pissed off as anyone about last night but I am more pissed off about people dropping there bundle after one game .

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Hawthorn aren't as good as the pundits think, some even have them finishing top, but their team is full of belief and they actually look like they're enjoying playing footy. Stark contrast to Carlton.

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OUT: Pickle Juice

The colossal failure of that stuff has got ‘central supplier full of shit’ written all over it. It’s snake oil.

Go down to the shops & get a jar of pickles. Or mix your own, so you know what’s in it.

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Out: Hope
In: Resignation

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Bondi and Mick, surely you must realise by now that people will say "I'm out", "it's over" etc after every catastrophic result, but they always come back. It's a coping strategy. We're all old bulls here, speaking old bullshit.

But let's also be clear: it's not one game, it's ten. 2 wins- one against West Coast, the other a scrape past Norf - 8 losses, and a pre-season that appears to have left us physically underdone, tactically lost, with dick pics and "personal issues" and all chips played on a kid whose knee blew out. So there is ample reason to be glum. But... we will watch against the Hawks. We're here till we die.

It's not how good or bad Hawthorn are. I agree IMO, they are very overrated but what they did to us in last year's game, would have our players mentally afraid to pass the white line. I can see the result now, just depends on when they start their roll on and we fall apart.....

The weird thing about our side is we'll probbaly play much better against Haw than we did last night.

(and still lose)

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The sad truth is, IF we play to anything like the level of what we did against the Tigers, the hawks will belt the hell out of us...

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I am expecting a big loss.

Be afraid be very afraid

Our fragile girlie men might never recover from this

Expect a complaint to AFL HR for work place bullying and harassment

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Theyve had the whole summer to get ready. That's a bullshit comment dropping their bundle. We didn't drop our bundle the Team did. No @#$%&! excuses and if we, as supporters are going to accept that as acceptable then there's another great 30 years to look forward to.

Qtr time odds Cartlon $1.01 Richmond $51.

Watching hawks now so we’ll organised hit target run and carry they do everything we don’t I think next week is going to be very ugly for Carlton

They made everything look easy 1Q... though I guess we did too. Let's see if they score more than 2 goals the rest of the way. Hmm... reckon they just might.

How is it a bullshit comment ? yeah , the team dropped there bundle for sure . And after the first game of the season most on here haven given the season away already . That's dropping your bundle mate . If the team takes that attitude then definitely the season is over . I give my team more credit than that .

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2 years ago they were miles behind us
How can other clubs improve so rapidly when we have been rebuilding for 20 plus years

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Who plays on their smalls?

Given Ginnivan's giving good value, give Gov a go

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