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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:39 pm 
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All I could think of today is those Kangaroos Youngsters and what they going to do to us & the rest of the comp in few years time... They will Thump for years to come lol


Very Lazy & unconvincing performance. We don't seem to have recovered from our slump yet!


Some of those boys appear Cooked for the year!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:48 pm 
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All I could think of today is those Kangaroos Youngsters and what they going to do to us & the rest of the comp in few years time... They will Thump for years to come lol


I hope those welfare queens run into salary cap issues when the young guns hit their peak


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 8:59 pm 
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Far from convincing.
We will need to play a LOT better than that to beat Port.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:16 pm 
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Pros
Happy with 4 points
We found out we are dysfunctional when TDK was off
Have doubts we would’ve won without TDK. Starred.
Motlop arrived. Loved his intensity
Loved the pace of Saad Cincotta Cottrell
Harry is the best CHF in the game
Charlie keeps kicking goals
Weitering held backline together
Carrolls best game for Carlton. Confident.
Pressure in the 3rd. Team effort.
Hewett is one of our best 3 mids

Cripps was BOG

Cons
Lack of pressure for long periods
Durdin ahead of Young. Too slow for AFL.
Charlie’s lack of effort to compete for every ball
TDK going off injured showed how importants a ruck role is
Losing a ruck Rob’s us of a CHF or our most important mid
Short backline exposed. Kemp or Marchy wouldn’t fill that gap
Handballing to players in worse positions
Cripps trying to do too much


If you can’t see the problem with one ruck when sole ruck is injured for the game you never will, so don’t think for a minute I don’t admire TDK cos I do, but I can’t depend on an opposition coach to not aim to hurt TDK to win the game in Finals.

Ridiculous to think I’d gloat about a loss Great Ex, like I said in match thread I pointed out for you that all 5 commentators all agreed we are vulnerable if TDK is out injured when sole ruck, so you don’t have to hear the logic from me. That was unecessary.

I’m happy for TDK to be No 1 ruck and Pitto sub as insurance. I can see how we play when he’s hot and firing as sole ruck. I also know how our structure is ruined if TDK as our sole ruck is off the ground injured for most if not remainder of the game. We all agree we were lucky he returned to the field and played 2nd half because we all felt our vulnerability when he was off. Let’s see if he plays as the sole ruck next week. He is human. His Purple patch was just that imo. If you thought his purple patch was going to last forever at his young age you would buy fools gold for gold too.

Harry went into ruck and his opponent Comden went to forwardline and kicked 3 goals. It was pointed out before he kicked a goal our backline couldn’t match their height ie mismatch. Weitering was on his own. Durdin was not a reliable second fiddle.

Was it not obvious when TDK went off that North ran away from us on the scoreboard? If not, you weren’t watching. Go watch the replay and listen to commentators. They weren’t BT Brayshaw or Richo. Or better still check the scoreboard ticking over for North. Too obvious to miss.

We miss the stature of jones as a KPD. Gov and Kemp are not KPDs as much as you want to believe they are.

We have to wait for Finals to see if Voss goes with 2 rucks or not. I don’t know. But I can see why he would. Can you?

All I have said all along is we play well with sole ruck but if we lose that ruck during the game we are vulnerable and haven’t got the KPDs to withstand the onslaught to come. See against bottom 2 team today. Repeat 17th on the ladder and you think a top 4 wouldn’t do better than them in the same situation?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:30 pm 
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Had daughters sport today and could only watch bits and pieces on my phone with no sound.

Incredibly important 4 points. Happy to take them.

But we still have many issues and much room for improvement.

Expected a much more obvious response re contest, pressure and intensity. First half in particular was nowhere near the level required. Very concerned that our ‘slump’ continues for a third week.

Lots of sore bodies and a short turnaround. Expecting a few changes once again.

We need to be much, much better to beat Port imho.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:49 pm 
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Dodo27 wrote:
All I could think of today is those Kangaroos Youngsters and what they going to do to us & the rest of the comp in few years time... They will Thump for years to come lol


Very Lazy & unconvincing performance. We don't seem to have recovered from our slump yet!


Some of those boys appear Cooked for the year!


This is the same team that Sydney humiliated last week. Today wasn’t about them but more about us.
It was another bad performance starting with team selections and then team roles. Just terrible and the playing group were playing with one hand behind their backs all night because of this.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:53 pm 
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bondiblue wrote:
Pros
Happy with 4 points
We found out we are dysfunctional when TDK was off
Have doubts we would’ve won without TDK. Starred.
Motlop arrived. Loved his intensity
Loved the pace of Saad Cincotta Cottrell
Harry is the best CHF in the game
Charlie keeps kicking goals
Weitering held backline together
Carrolls best game for Carlton. Confident.
Pressure in the 3rd. Team effort.
Hewett is one of our best 3 mids

Cripps was BOG

Cons
Lack of pressure for long periods
Durdin ahead of Young. Too slow for AFL.
Charlie’s lack of effort to compete for every ball
TDK going off injured showed how importants a ruck role is
Losing a ruck Rob’s us of a CHF or our most important mid
Short backline exposed. Kemp or Marchy wouldn’t fill that gap
Handballing to players in worse positions
Cripps trying to do too much


If you can’t see the problem with one ruck when sole ruck is injured for the game you never will, so don’t think for a minute I don’t admire TDK cos I do, but I can’t depend on an opposition coach to not aim to hurt TDK to win the game in Finals.

Ridiculous to think I’d gloat about a loss Great Ex, like I said in match thread I pointed out for you that all 5 commentators all agreed we are vulnerable if TDK is out injured when sole ruck, so you don’t have to hear the logic from me. That was unecessary.

I’m happy for TDK to be No 1 ruck and Pitto sub as insurance. I can see how we play when he’s hot and firing as sole ruck. I also know how our structure is ruined if TDK as our sole ruck is off the ground injured for most if not remainder of the game. We all agree we were lucky he returned to the field and played 2nd half because we all felt our vulnerability when he was off. Let’s see if he plays as the sole ruck next week. He is human. His Purple patch was just that imo. If you thought his purple patch was going to last forever at his young age you would buy fools gold for gold too.

Harry went into ruck and his opponent Comden went to forwardline and kicked 3 goals. It was pointed out before he kicked a goal our backline couldn’t match their height ie mismatch. Weitering was on his own. Durdin was not a reliable second fiddle.

Was it not obvious when TDK went off that North ran away from us on the scoreboard? If not, you weren’t watching. Go watch the replay and listen to commentators. They weren’t BT Brayshaw or Richo. Or better still check the scoreboard ticking over for North. Too obvious to miss.

We miss the stature of jones as a KPD. Gov and Kemp are not KPDs as much as you want to believe they are.

We have to wait for Finals to see if Voss goes with 2 rucks or not. I don’t know. But I can see why he would. Can you?

All I have said all along is we play well with sole ruck but if we lose that ruck during the game we are vulnerable and haven’t got the KPDs to withstand the onslaught to come. See against bottom 2 team today. Repeat 17th on the ladder and you think a top 4 wouldn’t do better than them in the same situation?


:clap: Well said Bondi.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 10:53 pm 
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What was TDK's injury? I was listening to SEN & the only injury they commented on for the whole game was Harry's head knock

Highlight was that Saad breakaway in Q3, was absolutely electric & brought the crowd into the game. Absolute gun & the rest of his game was pretty good too.

Thought TDK was also great in Q3, although the north ruckman is a good player too. Good battle.

Credit to Cotters, worked his way into the game after a slow start.

Thought Ollie had a weird day, some awesome defensive efforts but also some big time obvious mistakes. Should have taken a bounce & run that goal in, in Q4.

And fair play to North, thought they played really well especially their midfield. They gave us a couple of easy goals which we could have been in real trouble without.

Annoying about the short break for port but I hope it isn't even mentioned inside the club. I'd rather Voss absolutely demands we completely dick this mob on Friday. They may have a good midfield but they have serious deficiencies front & back. It's time for us to start concentrating & playing brutal footy over 4 qtrs again, pronto. We need to force our way out of this slump - we're better than this.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:00 pm 
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I’ll add, Saad has now developed as a trusted defender. He seems to have not only controlled his erratic running and kicking but more importantly, has worked is ass off on 1v1 defending. So bloody happy with what is now - the Navy Blue Saad.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:02 pm 
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Pros:

Important to find a way to win and hold onto 2nd with all those interstate teams around us. Not much advantage finishing top 4, if you have to play an interstate final in week 1.
Good contribution from our small forwards.
Saad, Oli and Newman.
Gutsy effort from TDK to persist after getting hurt. Also from Kennedy and Cripps having to pinch hit and play above their weight/size division.
Thought Harry contested pretty well in the ruck.
Carroll looked better at senior level than he has for a while.
Cottrell looked far more involved than the last 2 weeks.

Cons:

Disappointing intensity in the first half.
Opposition couldn't miss.
Lots of sore players at the moment. Struggling to match the aggression of opposition teams at the moment. Roos looked like they wanted to hurt us. Like to see a bit more of that from us.
Cerra had a better 2nd half, but I've been worried about his form since his return.
Walsh is struggling. Looks sore.
Acres quiet.
Umpiring decisions were incomprehensible. Especially with the holding the ball decisions.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:03 pm 
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A look into the future . North have some very good young colts running around . And as far as the future is concerned I reckon Jack Carroll for the first time looked right at home in the thick of things . Jack has given us plenty of glimpses of his talent but never quite fully delivered . Today he arrived .

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:03 pm 
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Hey Cee Kay….

during that Saad run…the Pox commentary team
said…”what a great chase”…about the defender….!

funny lot…!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:07 pm 
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Yes Micksta….

Jack Carroll played very well today…showed a
bit of smoothness…liked it…!


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:08 pm 
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Oh yeah, Charlie laid his first tackle in quite a while. Helped that his opponent fell over.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:14 pm 
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:20 pm 
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Stefchook wrote:
Oh yeah, Charlie laid his first tackle in quite a while. Helped that his opponent fell over.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 21, 2024 11:23 pm 
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tommi wrote:
Hey Cee Kay….

during that Saad run…the Pox commentary team
said…”what a great chase”…about the defender….!

funny lot…!


kindest regards tommi


Geez Tom , I reckon BT would be less biased than those blokes today . I get it , North are the underdog ( won't be for much longer ) but they just willed North all day . All day .

PS ........... back off on Laura Kane Tom , her mum comes from Florina or there about . And her dad is a fighting Irishman .

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:03 am 
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Mickstar wrote:
tommi wrote:
Hey Cee Kay….

during that Saad run…the Pox commentary team
said…”what a great chase”…about the defender….!

funny lot…!


kindest regards tommi


Geez Tom , I reckon BT would be less biased than those blokes today . I get it , North are the underdog ( won't be for much longer ) but they just willed North all day . All day .

PS ........... back off on Laura Kane Tom , her mum comes from Florina or there about . And her dad is a fighting Irishman .


The commentary is almost as bad as the umpiring. Officiating in most sports that I watch besides AFL is pretty bad and has only gotten worse, officials are given carte blanche with no right to review, no dissent allowed and a media that stands behind them.

As much as the crappy commentary team were willing Norf on they still couldn't get it done. Those cauliflower can all EABBOD!

Good to get another win on the board. Hopefully come the finals we peak and bring home the cup.


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PostPosted: Mon Jul 22, 2024 12:36 am 
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Lucky wrote:
Mickstar wrote:
tommi wrote:
Hey Cee Kay….

during that Saad run…the Pox commentary team
said…”what a great chase”…about the defender….!

funny lot…!


kindest regards tommi


Geez Tom , I reckon BT would be less biased than those blokes today . I get it , North are the underdog ( won't be for much longer ) but they just willed North all day . All day .

PS ........... back off on Laura Kane Tom , her mum comes from Florina or there about . And her dad is a fighting Irishman .


The commentary is almost as bad as the umpiring. Officiating in most sports that I watch besides AFL is pretty bad and has only gotten worse, officials are given carte blanche with no right to review, no dissent allowed and a media that stands behind them.

As much as the crappy commentary team were willing Norf on they still couldn't get it done. Those cauliflower can all EABBOD!

Good to get another win on the board. Hopefully come the finals we peak and bring home the cup.


True Lucky . I just felt the commentary was extra extreme if you know what I mean . Almost to the point of out and out barracking .

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