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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 11:35 pm 
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It's time we brought back LOB. He's the only specialist scapegoat we have, and the team clearly can't cope without him there to absorb the hatred of our supporters.
:lol:

Thanks, I needed that ....

We will have no idea what to do...

Voss has already bought dinner...

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PostPosted: Sat May 13, 2023 11:38 pm 
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It’s going to get flowering ugly.


Reckon we'll lose by 70-100, or win. Nothing in between.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:23 am 
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I think there will be lots of supporters trying to sell their tickets for this game.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:35 am 
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I think there will be lots of supporters trying to sell their tickets for this game.


I have 4 if you're interested

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:38 am 
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kezza wrote:
I think there will be lots of supporters trying to sell their tickets for this game.


I have 4 if you're interested

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Thanks. I have my tickets and I think I will still go. I am a glutton for punishment.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:47 am 
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I'll be finding something else to do next Sunday arvo.

The Zoo or the Botanical Gardens sounds like a good outing.


dont bother with the zoo - most of the animals will be in the collingwood cheer squad

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:47 am 
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Lets Bring in the Kids- the Future of our Club...

Oh Wait... what Kids???? do we have anyone in the 2's that can come in and make an impact? Oh pleaseeeeeeeeee no one calls the name Dow again lol

We have one of the Worst lists in the comp. No depth what so ever! so many below Average footballers!


Someone will come and say " I have a Gut feeling we will win this one ".

Truth is, we will probably lose by 50, and If we dare Win, its even Worse, because we will start to dream again and get delusional as we always do until we get a reality Check!


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:51 am 
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Dodo27 wrote:
Lets Bring in the Kids- the Future of our Club...

Oh Wait... what Kids???? do we have anyone in the 2's that can come in and make an impact? Oh pleaseeeeeeeeee no one calls the name Dow again lol

We have one of the Worst lists in the comp. No depth what so ever! so many below Average footballers!


Someone will come and say " I have a Gut feeling we will win this one ".

Truth is, we will probably lose by 50, and If we dare Win, its even Worse, because we will start to dream again and get delusional as we always do until we get a reality Check!






So...defeating Collingwood is worse than losing to them (by 50 points).

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:57 am 
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bluedog wrote:
Dodo27 wrote:
Lets Bring in the Kids- the Future of our Club...

Oh Wait... what Kids???? do we have anyone in the 2's that can come in and make an impact? Oh pleaseeeeeeeeee no one calls the name Dow again lol

We have one of the Worst lists in the comp. No depth what so ever! so many below Average footballers!


Someone will come and say " I have a Gut feeling we will win this one ".

Truth is, we will probably lose by 50, and If we dare Win, its even Worse, because we will start to dream again and get delusional as we always do until we get a reality Check!






So...defeating Collingwood is worse than losing to them (by 50 points).


Its much worse, cause as usual we will get ahead of ourselves and forget how far behind we are!

If we beat Collingwood, we will then travel to play a bad Sydney team who will then suddenly find form and beat us badly, then we face the demons who will belt us and we will continue to lose for another 3 weeks!

This Senario has been happening since 2003. Wow... 20 years and counting!


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:01 am 
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Blood in the water no chance.

Only hope....get H on the roids all week, convince him he is Mark Yeates and Daicos is Dermie.
Then do the same to De Goey.
Knowing Harry, he would knock Walsh out before he got out of the forward 50.
But if he connected he could have 6 weeks off for a "farm stay" and work on his positivity ....oh and if he had time, his goalkicking, using the term loosely.

Just hoping for a bit of biffo.
We've got stuff all else left.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 2:29 am 
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Play McGovern forward. If that means dropping McKay, go ahead

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 6:43 am 
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Out: McKay (managed), Cripps (managed)
In: Kemp, Dow

B: Newman, Young, Kemp
HB: Docherty, Weitering, Saad
C: Acres, Dow, Cottrell
HF: Kennedy, C. Curnow, Owies
F: Silvagni, McGovern, Motlop
Foll: Pittonet, Cerra, Walsh
Int: Cincotta, Hewett, Hollands, Durdin

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 9:55 am 
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malbi wrote:
Out: McKay, Cripps
In: Someone who can kick properly for goal.

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you can’t drop Cripps unless he’s injured and not playing. you’d consider trading him before you’d drop last years Brownlow winnner and the Captain. at a minium he takes the oppositions best shutdown player. maybe he needs to be more defensive minded when he’s not having his best day on the ground. but that’s it. i don’t blame him for the woes for a minute.

Voss go asked about snaps from straight in front 30 out (hint hint Mackay) and is it time to just tell some players “enough is enough” and again Voss demurred. i don’t expect him to give the media a heads up or a headline on anything but it’s bloody obvious to me that someone needs to play dad for Mackay and settle him into a structure that removes his ego (voices in his head) a little bit to free him up. also love the idea of him in the square and Charlie as a high CHF with occasional bursts through the middle. he’s more like wayne carey than most forwards running around today even though the game has changed so so much since pagans paddock was possible!

speaking of, anybody else notice Voss rubbing his left thigh for half the post-game presser? i looked up body language and apparently it means someone is afraid that their obscenely high salary (that goes for all people paid millions while there are homeless and starving families) and high-status position is being reviewed by his superiors. just kidding. i think he’s safe, too much sovereign risk at carlton for coaches if they fired voss at the end of the year. and too be honest there’s only been one thrashing, adelaide. which sad to say but is an improvement.

Walsh is doing his preseason on the ground at the moment and topped our possessions, AF points and kicks. not sure about his score involvements and efficiency but it’s improve exponentially each and every game.

that tells me two things
a) Sam Walsh is a freak and one of the best picks in Carlton’s post 1995 history.

b) a pacific ocean of difference between him and the rest of our on onballer/winger/run&carry brigade.

i do like Cerra and hate seeing him wasted in the D50 because no body else has his composure under heavy fire and scoreboard pressure. Kennedy is back to form and did a job on Damian Barletts best player in the AFL so not having a go at those two. Hewitt is Mr Invisible atm. doing rôles each i know but is that enough for a highly rated midfielder on big money?

i would rate us an outside chance in this game on matchups despite the terrible colliewobbles we seem to be having this year. except the filthy magpies (my partner and her daughters team unfortunately for me) are just incredibly good at finding a way from any positions. and as we all know their mantra is you have to play for every single one of those 100 minutes against them. and our mantra seems to be, little glimpses of form for a third of the game, embarrassment for a third of the game and dour and boring for a third of the game which gives Collingwood too many looks i reckon.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 10:10 am 
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diesel95 wrote:
malbi wrote:
Out: McKay, Cripps
In: Someone who can kick properly for goal.

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you can’t drop Cripps unless he’s injured and not playing. you’d consider trading him before you’d drop last years Brownlow winnner and the Captain. at a minium he takes the oppositions best shutdown player. maybe he needs to be more defensive minded when he’s not having his best day on the ground. but that’s it. i don’t blame him for the woes for a minute.

Voss go asked about snaps from straight in front 30 out (hint hint Mackay) and is it time to just tell some players “enough is enough” and again Voss demurred. i don’t expect him to give the media a heads up or a headline on anything but it’s bloody obvious to me that someone needs to play dad for Mackay and settle him into a structure that removes his ego (voices in his head) a little bit to free him up. also love the idea of him in the square and Charlie as a high CHF with occasional bursts through the middle. he’s more like wayne carey than most forwards running around today even though the game has changed so so much since pagans paddock was possible!

speaking of, anybody else notice Voss rubbing his left thigh for half the post-game presser? i looked up body language and apparently it means someone is afraid that their obscenely high salary (that goes for all people paid millions while there are homeless and starving families) and high-status position is being reviewed by his superiors. just kidding. i think he’s safe, too much sovereign risk at carlton for coaches if they fired voss at the end of the year. and too be honest there’s only been one thrashing, adelaide. which sad to say but is an improvement.

Walsh is doing his preseason on the ground at the moment and topped our possessions, AF points and kicks. not sure about his score involvements and efficiency but it’s improve exponentially each and every game.

that tells me two things
a) Sam Walsh is a freak and one of the best picks in Carlton’s post 1995 history.

b) a pacific ocean of difference between him and the rest of our on onballer/winger/run&carry brigade.

i do like Cerra and hate seeing him wasted in the D50 because no body else has his composure under heavy fire and scoreboard pressure. Kennedy is back to form and did a job on Damian Barletts best player in the AFL so not having a go at those two. Hewitt is Mr Invisible atm. doing rôles each i know but is that enough for a highly rated midfielder on big money?

i would rate us an outside chance in this game on matchups despite the terrible colliewobbles we seem to be having this year. except the filthy magpies (my partner and her daughters team unfortunately for me) are just incredibly good at finding a way from any positions. and as we all know their mantra is you have to play for every single one of those 100 minutes against them. and our mantra seems to be, little glimpses of form for a third of the game, embarrassment for a third of the game and dour and boring for a third of the game which gives Collingwood too many looks i reckon.


Having both Hewitt and Kennedy in same midfield doesn’t work. Never will. With Cripps not playing well, our position becomes even worse.

Need to find two quality inside/outside midfielders. Unfortunately easier said than done.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 10:16 am 
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bluedog wrote:
Things could be far, far worse.

We do not have KFC as a corporate partner.

haha too true. things to be cheerful about.


but we do have poker machines earning us blood money still in the club, right? (i never go there wouldn’t know) and a pokie king for our sugar daddy (makes me vomit just thinking about Mathieson) . if i had any influence i’d show these miserable vampires (the machines and the flowering runts who profit from them) the door.

small aside to justify my expression of an “extreme” view. a friend of my ex was whose name was Andy was one of the best acoustic bass players i’ve ever seen and (co-)wrote most of the whitlams first album (uncredited b/c…. runts i guess) put his pay check down a one armed bandit before making a very sad decision (you probably know but i don’t want to write it down but he there was a baby child in this world without a dad at the time). his job was driving a white van delivering chickens which possibly was so depressing the pokies lured him in and wouldn’t let him go. not getting a cent in royalties for songs he (co-) wrote and were radio-hits possibly made him resentful adding to the power of the pokie over him i have no idea really but felt like it at the time. have heard heaps of other equally sad stories about pokies.

i’ve gone completely off-topic. mods can delete if they like, just ranting to avoid unfairly attacking the players who wear the CFC insignia i guess!

i know we can turn this around but i also know cultures don’t change over night. new coach or old coach it’s gonna take years to institute success. pies had much more to work with when their new coach arrived i reckon. better recruiting. except for mason cox, haha.


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:08 am 
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Move McGovern forward

Drop JSOS

Select Kemp and move to Defence

I would drop Motlop but nothing to replace him. Martin still underdone.

The year is close to being shot, so nothing to lose


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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 11:14 am 
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I thought JSOS was the only one having a dip in the first half. I'd drop Harry instead

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:12 pm 
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mymanmurph wrote:
I think we start each game by trying too hard to stop the opposition rather than go in to play our way.
Bevo hoodwinked us and mixed it up in first 1/4 and we didn’t know what to do. When we adjusted at 1/4 time we couldn’t buy a goal.

good thing is Collingwood won’t mix it up they will back them selves to win. So we will be able to implement our plan.
I don’t agree with it I’d prefer to come out and make teams stop us. But I’m not the coach



Cripps doesn't even know who his opponent is. he couldn't give a rats about the opposition. He's superman.

Brownlow has gone to his head.

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:13 pm 
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I thought JSOS was the only one having a dip in the first half. I'd drop Harry instead



He and Cottrell really did have a dip, but does that make SOS a good player? He cant kick straight.

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PostPosted: Sun May 14, 2023 12:46 pm 
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SOS has his faults. However he’s one of the very few who gives a shit and his work rate and effort reflects that, all the time. There’s plenty droppable ahead of him for mine including some of our supposed marquee players.

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