I don't think we are far off, but change must happen and a statement should be made.
Hope Harry got the cobwebs out coz he was easily pushed aside and smothered by smaller opponents.

Post lockdown version of Cripps is a shadow of the former.
He got owned by Oliver. Dominated.

With injuries to Kreuzer Fisher Marchbank Charlie Dow DeKoning and Kemp our problem is depth.

Who else was available to play yesterday:

Emergencies: Williamson Kennedy Philp OBrien
Others: Stocker Polson Honey Ramsay Macreadie Cottrell Owies

Not much in the cupboard. Jack returns.

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Have to get our dynamic and creative players into the midfield for centre clearances - Cuningham and Martin

Also have to play an extra man in defence to protect the scoreboard from Geelong centre clearances

Keep the forward half open and be prepared to play slingshot footy out of defence.

Watch us fall for the ducking tactics of a whole bunch of their players again/

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Yep, definitely let’s drop be whole leadership team cos I’d much prefer Macreadie and Honey than Docherty and SPS! In fact, I reckon Kemp would be an upgrade on Murphy - yeah, he’s on one leg and has never played AFL but he must be better than Murphy.
And I think the coach and MC have NO idea what they’re doing and have zero understanding about our players or Psych 101.
What they’re doing is purposely picking the crappest players we have and teaching them to play badly.
I’m devastated as I watch other teams go past us (GC, NM, StK, Bris, Melb).
But throwing a fan-tantrum is not going to fix anything.
If you seriously believe that Gibbo, Docherty, SPS, Murphy and/or McGovern should be dropped based on the Melb performance than I’ve been watching a very different game.
The whole team was crap throughout most of the first half but at least these guys kept working hard and got the ball and were mostly good with it. Yes, the rest were stuff ups but they were FAR from the worst offenders. And some of their mistakes were errors of inches.


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I was all the big bodied / experienced route but after that display - enough. Statement time.
Time for the 'kids' to build their own culture - if possible.

My Changes are simple:

In: JSos, Kennedy, Stocker, Fisher, Williamson
Out: McGovern, Murphy, Newnes, Lang, Newman.

Docherty Jones Plowman
Simpson Weitering Williamson
SpS Cripps Walsh
Cuningham Casboult Martin
JSoS McKay Betts
Pittonet EdCurnow(lucky for now) Gibbons
Fisher Setterfield Kennedy Stocker

For the 1st time ever - I'd be happy for us to drop Murphy. That 1st quarter by him was unacceptable.
McGovern is a liability. Serious liability. Newnes was pathetic and Lang did little - I expected more from a guy playing for his career.

I don't know why people would point the finger at Doc, Gibbo or SpS as I felt they were fine. Doc couldn't have done much more and mistakes are mistakes.

Kennedy / JSoS to play midfield forward with Cripps
Gibbons to play on ball.

Anyone calling for Doc's axing needs to give their head a wobble.

20 years of shitfulness says something has got to be done.
Make a statement

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Is he going to be the difference between us winning and losing next week - Nope we will get flogged with or without him.

Make an example of the leaders that sat there and allowed 7 goals to zip

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Thank you to the poster who posted the Terry Wallace spray. That was GOLD! However, unfortunately those displays are a thing of the past. BUT Teague needs to get his players to come out firing this game. Anything less is unacceptable. Murphy won’t get dropped before he retires (not good I know) so he must put in a stronger showing. It Stocker was played last year and is now injury free, then he should play. TWO HOURS of their life they need to stay focused and committed to the cause!!! Anything less and they should be dropped the following week. Line in the sand game? I THINK IT SHOULD BE!

Agree.

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McGovern made a few mistakes but overall played well.

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Yep. It's absolute nonsense. The same as calls for Murphy to be dropped. Yes Murphy frustrates with his lack of physical presence but he was in our better half dozen. As for calls for Ed to be dropped. Absolute stupidity.
Same with Newnes. He went back to stabilise the defence when Newman went off and SPS was getting his pants pulled down. Sometimes its like people are throwing darts at a board.
Yes we had another horrible start but we've shown we can play very good footy. We just need more of it.
It was our poor conversion that killed us in the end. We had plenty of opportunities to win the game and we blew it. Some games accuracy wins you games (Bulldogs game last year) and sometimes you blow it. Unfortunately we shot ourselves in the foot.

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Crap we were run over in the first 40 minutes and were lucky it was Melbourne otherwise it would have been a 100 point flogging.
Every year it's the same crapola dished up something has to change.

I will give you 2 players that some up Carlton.
Gibbs and Robinson.
Robbo was undisciplined turned it over ,brain dead gave away to many frees and went out on the piss. He had to go was a cancer on the club. He is now a B&F winner and a big part of Brissie.
Gibbs we all thought he was a gun .2 first round draft picks polite skilled perfect footballer. Can't get a game in the one side that is probably worse than us.
We breathed a sigh of relief when Robbo left but shed a tear for Gibbs.
Robbo has a go
Gibbs coasts and he learnt that at Carlton.

Cripps Murphy Doc and Simmo stood by and let a shit side like Melbourne get 7 goals up.
They coast like Gibbs used to and only go when the going is easy.

Would we welcome Gibbs back in a heart beat.
Crows can see it we can't

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Very well summed up BV. 3 changes required for mine.

In: Silvagni, Philp, Cottrell

Out: Newman (inj), Setterfield (omitted), Lang (omitted)

Let's get some pace into the side. Might as well get some games into Philp. Same goes for Cottrell.

There's three players in that list I would not describe as coasters.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

They are all coasters been doing it for years.
I seriously thought Gibbs was a gun . He looked a Gun at Carlton despite the fact that we kept losing.
We just need to fix our start and we will be ok. Funniest thing you will hear all year.
At some point in the game doesn't matter if it is 1st quarter of last the opposition is going to turn things up and we will sit back and watch them

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Well that just demonstrates how different peoples perspectives can be and why that can cause arguments on here. I always thought Gibbs was an overrated lazy footballer with no desire / drive and i would never consider Cripps, Simmo and Doc as coasters. We agree on Murph but that’s about all.

The boring truth is probably somewhere in the middle.

I've gone off Plowman big time. Reckon he brings nothing in terms of team play, run, creativity. Often beats an opponent which is great but needs to do more than that.

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I wonder what Wallsy thinks. He’s probably in iso at his country property maintaining his garden instead of losing sleep over woeful Carlton