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Cool Runnings
PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2016 10:34 am 
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jim wrote:
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KJ for casboult , pls make it happen


They must play together IMO

Disagree. I have seen comments in this forum about him adding structure to our foward line. If anything he breaks down our structures. Have a look at the amount of times we had to bomb it in. He doesn't lead and expects to take the big pack mark every time, which he may take once every 15 times if u are lucky. Plonking himself where he does also takes the space away from others to lead. Did I mention that he is useless when the ball hits the ground? And he doesn't kick goals? But I forgot there is time on his side he is still only young 27, so plenty of time to develop. What makes me laugh is some supporters got sucked in the we were offered a 1st, 2nd or even a 3rd pick for him, the truth is the other clubs laughed in our face. So just remind me what value he adds ?
Adds more than you do as a poster. Last year he rucked pretty well and hit the scoreboard very regularly. Clubs were very interested, SOS said the himself on SEN at trade time. I'll take his word over someone with an obvious agenda. People with agendas you can't take seriously on a particular subject. Played well last year hence the interest.

Outside of his goal kicking, he took marks, got touches and generally played pretty well. His kicking at goal brought that down unfortunately. Goalkicking could've made it a really good game. To have a shot for goal you have to get it first. He did that whereas other may be be able to. He's a shit kick but if he keeps grabbing them he'll kick a few. Need the 2 key forward so one doesn't take the heat of the defence. If it's either Jaksch or Casboult it'll be alot harder work for that reason. I assume you can grasp that.

Mate granted that everyone is entitled to an opinion. U are entitled to urs as I am to mine. I have been around footy at the highest level for a while and I'm telling u what I see. How much longer are u waiting for him to make it? He is 27. Again just watch closely and u can see he is a liability, don't get blinded by the one big mark every game. He is paid to hit the scoreboard and he doesn't even do that, so again explain to me where he adds value. He has had is time. Play KJ and Gorridge and see what they offer.
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jimmae wrote:
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I'd be tempted to bring Byrne in.

I've been furious about this since the selections came in. Byrne stomped all over their choice with his VFL performance.

For mine:

Out: Everitt, Phillips, White, Lamb
In: C.Curnow, Jaksch, Byrne, Thomas

Something's up with Everitt, and it's not form related. I guessed fascia injury in another thread.

What's your guess in THIS thread?

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Lamb is the new Ellard.
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Cool Runnings wrote:
jim wrote:
Cool Runnings wrote:
dane wrote:
Cool Runnings wrote:
KJ for casboult , pls make it happen


They must play together IMO

Disagree. I have seen comments in this forum about him adding structure to our foward line. If anything he breaks down our structures. Have a look at the amount of times we had to bomb it in. He doesn't lead and expects to take the big pack mark every time, which he may take once every 15 times if u are lucky. Plonking himself where he does also takes the space away from others to lead. Did I mention that he is useless when the ball hits the ground? And he doesn't kick goals? But I forgot there is time on his side he is still only young 27, so plenty of time to develop. What makes me laugh is some supporters got sucked in the we were offered a 1st, 2nd or even a 3rd pick for him, the truth is the other clubs laughed in our face. So just remind me what value he adds ?
Adds more than you do as a poster. Last year he rucked pretty well and hit the scoreboard very regularly. Clubs were very interested, SOS said the himself on SEN at trade time. I'll take his word over someone with an obvious agenda. People with agendas you can't take seriously on a particular subject. Played well last year hence the interest.

Outside of his goal kicking, he took marks, got touches and generally played pretty well. His kicking at goal brought that down unfortunately. Goalkicking could've made it a really good game. To have a shot for goal you have to get it first. He did that whereas other may be be able to. He's a shit kick but if he keeps grabbing them he'll kick a few. Need the 2 key forward so one doesn't take the heat of the defence. If it's either Jaksch or Casboult it'll be alot harder work for that reason. I assume you can grasp that.

Mate granted that everyone is entitled to an opinion. U are entitled to urs as I am to mine. I have been around footy at the highest level for a while and I'm telling u what I see. How much longer are u waiting for him to make it? He is 27. Again just watch closely and u can see he is a liability, don't get blinded by the one big mark every game. He is paid to hit the scoreboard and he doesn't even do that, so again explain to me where he adds value. He has had is time. Play KJ and Gorridge and see what they offer.

Oh by the way n casboult and trade period, again u can believe what u want, now I will add the truth to it. Carlton shop him around even desperately, no one offered anything, well not even close to anything in the first 3 rounds. All the other clubs know he doesn't offer much. Do u think Sos would have passed up a first or second round pick for casboult? Pls give him some credit. Anyways enough on casboult from me for now as I'm sure many here are getting sick of it.
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Lamb is the new Ellard.

Pretty much.

CK95 wrote:
Gorringe is the new Simon Black

Aaron Black would have been a better call there. :P

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Cool Runnings with the hot mail!

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In Thomas (for Buckley)
Byrne for white

Don't think Kj or army are ready yet.
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I'm guessing Everitts injury is a meniscal one

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Either that or a finger

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Bone vibrations playing up again.

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Cool Runnings wrote:
jim wrote:
Cool Runnings wrote:
dane wrote:
Cool Runnings wrote:
KJ for casboult , pls make it happen


They must play together IMO

Disagree. I have seen comments in this forum about him adding structure to our foward line. If anything he breaks down our structures. Have a look at the amount of times we had to bomb it in. He doesn't lead and expects to take the big pack mark every time, which he may take once every 15 times if u are lucky. Plonking himself where he does also takes the space away from others to lead. Did I mention that he is useless when the ball hits the ground? And he doesn't kick goals? But I forgot there is time on his side he is still only young 27, so plenty of time to develop. What makes me laugh is some supporters got sucked in the we were offered a 1st, 2nd or even a 3rd pick for him, the truth is the other clubs laughed in our face. So just remind me what value he adds ?
Adds more than you do as a poster. Last year he rucked pretty well and hit the scoreboard very regularly. Clubs were very interested, SOS said the himself on SEN at trade time. I'll take his word over someone with an obvious agenda. People with agendas you can't take seriously on a particular subject. Played well last year hence the interest.

Outside of his goal kicking, he took marks, got touches and generally played pretty well. His kicking at goal brought that down unfortunately. Goalkicking could've made it a really good game. To have a shot for goal you have to get it first. He did that whereas other may be be able to. He's a shit kick but if he keeps grabbing them he'll kick a few. Need the 2 key forward so one doesn't take the heat of the defence. If it's either Jaksch or Casboult it'll be alot harder work for that reason. I assume you can grasp that.

Mate granted that everyone is entitled to an opinion. U are entitled to urs as I am to mine. I have been around footy at the highest level for a while and I'm telling u what I see. How much longer are u waiting for him to make it? He is 27. Again just watch closely and u can see he is a liability, don't get blinded by the one big mark every game. He is paid to hit the scoreboard and he doesn't even do that, so again explain to me where he adds value. He has had is time. Play KJ and Gorridge and see what they offer.


Don't stress Cool Runnings.
Jim shitcans the opinions of others and talks utter tripe himself. There are others here who value your opinion and don't burst into tears when your disagree with them.
Keep offering your views. It adds to the debate.

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Wouldn't give up Levi for less than pick 25 though

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jimmae wrote:
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Wouldn't give up Levi for less than pick 25 though


Jim, I like Cas but even I know if he doesn't get his kicking sorted he won't get us diddly in a trade.

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cimm1979 wrote:
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Wouldn't give up Levi for less than pick 25 though


Jim, I like Cas but even I know if he doesn't get his kicking sorted he won't get us diddly in a trade.

How long are you giving him to sort out his kicking ? He's had 7 years so far...
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In my opinion Casboult is 22.
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Wouldn't give up Levi for less than pick 25 though


Jim, I like Cas but even I know if he doesn't get his kicking sorted he won't get us diddly in a trade.

How long are you giving him to sort out his kicking ? He's had 7 years so far...


Dunno.

I'll leave that up to the coaches and MC.

Just making the point that his value is lower kicking like last night.

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Cool Runnings wrote:
[He is 27.


Are you willing to stake your credibility (if you have any) on this?

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I don't think I'd make any changes this week, but I would play Buckley behind the ball and Simpson as our defensive half-forward.
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