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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 9:21 am 
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Touhy Jamison Jaksch
Yarran Henderson Simpson
Everett Gibbs Murphy
Wood Judd Curnow
Thomas Jones Carrazzo
Menzel Rowe Cripps

White Bell Docherty sub Boekhorst

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:06 am 
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Just win.

Tiggers fans are the worst for getting all cock-a-hoop and seeking out opposition supporters to gloat to about their wins.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 10:58 am 
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Have reserved seating and cant wait.

Amazing how quick reserved seats were sold last Thursday.
My kids wanted Ponsford Stand so that's what we got.

Expecting Gibbs Yarran and Simpson selected.

The big question mark for me is not 3 talls forward and 3 talls back but who will ruck?
Warnock hasnt shown anything and Wood is serviceable.

Maric gives the Tiges a fair bit of drive so he needs nullifying, and if Hampson plays too, then I think Casboult will be considered if Warnock isnt.

Good luck to those who are selected.

Expect Tutt Smith to make way for Gibbs Yarran and Simpson.
Expect Jones to be selected ahead of White and Watson.
Expect BB to be picked ahead of more experienced Buckley, Graham, Armfield, Ellard and Dick for the game at the G, despite not showing much against Geelong.

COME ON BLUES!!!!!!!!!!

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 11:13 am 
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[quote="bondiblue"]Expect BB to be picked ahead of more experienced Buckley, Graham, Armfield, Ellard and Dick for the game at the G, despite not showing much against Geelong.

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Agree with most of your post Bondi, but IMHO Buckley has shown far more than BB and was a rising star nominee last year, at this stage Bucks should be playing ahead of BB. BB needs to go back to the VFL to fine tune his game and learn a little more about contested footy. :wink:


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:10 pm 
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B: Simmo Jamo Tuohy
HB: White KJ Docherty
C: Curnow Judd Thomas
HF: Bell Hendo Everitt
F: Yarran Jones Rowe

Foll: Wood Carrazzo Murphy

Inter: Cripps Gibbs Menzel
Sub: Boekhorst

Emg: Byrne Casboult Smith


I reckon Yarran will switch back and forth between HF & HB week to week and within games this year. I would like to see him start forward in round 1. We lack fire power in attack and I think it would be a positive move to start him inside the forward 50. We lacked crumbers against Geelong and Yaz is the sort of player who could give us some needed flair. He won't spend the whole game there, but he could give the scoreboard spark we need early.

Gibbs would have to be a little underdone, so I expect him to start on the bench and ease into the game.

Wood did enough against the Cats to keep out an underdone Warnock.

Rowe to play the #2 ruckman/swingman role. Casboult will need to force his way into the side.

The Sub spot was for me a choice between Boekhorst, Smith, Byrne, Dick, Tutt, Buckley, Graham, Armfield and Ellard. I've gone for Boekhorst. He has flashed in and out of games during the NAB Challenge but we are crying out for outside run & carry, and I can see him enjoying the MCG. Byrne & Smith will get their chances soon enough.

I'm not confident that we'll beat the Tigers, and I don't think we'll make the eight. As we saw last night, I think in 2015 we're going to be one of those teams who can match it with the better sides for periods, but lack the class across the ground to win enough games.

More then most sides, we can't afford drop offs in our intensity, to miss easy goals or to suffer injuries to key players.

We'll have our share of 'honourable losses' this season :mad: But I suppose as long as we see consistency of effort and steady improvement from our kids, I will be content.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 12:44 pm 
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Our backline and midfield are settled and will be competitive this year - most of the teams ppl post are identical there.

Forward line is what needs tinkering.

Personally, I think when Walker comes back he goes up forward. That'll leave Hendo (who really needs to start playing better), Menzel, one more tall (Bolt, Jones or Watto) and a rover type (Buckley, Smith, Tutt). Bolt's advantage is that he can bring the ball to ground and can relieve in the ruck - that changes yet again when Kreuzer comes back. Jones' advantage is that he is the most athletic of the three. Watto, truth be told, is a @#$%&! list clogger.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:16 pm 
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..Robbie, I wouldn't think of the backup ruck as a main part of the forward line, because they drift in and out.. ..that's my own view.. ..currently bolt is the option, or Rowe.. ..we have tried Rowe up fwd as backup ruck without as much success as his kpd year.. ..that being said, he was still only recently returned from therapy so maybe with renewed fitness and strength he could be a good ruck fwd again..

..walker has been talked up by the club as a forward..

..jones might be athletic, but he is also very lazy.. ..needs to prove otherwise, but 6 yrs tells the story.. ..his afl best is the same as watto's, in my opinion they are on equal footing as far as proven form goes, except that Jones has triple the games experience and two more years in the system, for as much, or little,, to show for it as watto..

....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 1:43 pm 
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Blues Clues wrote:
bondiblue wrote:
Expect BB to be picked ahead of more experienced Buckley, Graham, Armfield, Ellard and Dick for the game at the G, despite not showing much against Geelong.

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Agree with most of your post Bondi, but IMHO Buckley has shown far more than BB and was a rising star nominee last year, at this stage Bucks should be playing ahead of BB. BB needs to go back to the VFL to fine tune his game and learn a little more about contested footy. :wink:


Agree

I think the MC will pick BB given they've shown their preference with him in the preseason games and at the draft he was earmarked as the type we need now.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:08 pm 
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..Robbie, I wouldn't think of the backup ruck as a main part of the forward line, because they drift in and out.. ..that's my own view.. ..currently bolt is the option, or Rowe.. ..we have tried Rowe up fwd as backup ruck without as much success as his kpd year.. ..that being said, he was still only recently returned from therapy so maybe with renewed fitness and strength he could be a good ruck fwd again..

..walker has been talked up by the club as a forward..

..jones might be athletic, but he is also very lazy.. ..needs to prove otherwise, but 6 yrs tells the story.. ..his afl best is the same as watto's, in my opinion they are on equal footing as far as proven form goes, except that Jones has triple the games experience and two more years in the system, for as much, or little,, to show for it as watto..

....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..


Nah, Jones shows more than Watson and will play a lot of football this year. Watson was in to see if he can replace Cas and he didn't show a hell of a lot.

For starters Jones can jump, and run, and turn.

Yes, 4 touches but almost took another 3 grabs (two big climbs) when delivery was @#$%&! awful, kicked two. Watson got 8 touches but 4 of them were in the last 10 minutes.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 2:36 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Robbie, I wouldn't think of the backup ruck as a main part of the forward line, because they drift in and out.. ..that's my own view.. ..currently bolt is the option, or Rowe.. ..we have tried Rowe up fwd as backup ruck without as much success as his kpd year.. ..that being said, he was still only recently returned from therapy so maybe with renewed fitness and strength he could be a good ruck fwd again..

..walker has been talked up by the club as a forward..

..jones might be athletic, but he is also very lazy.. ..needs to prove otherwise, but 6 yrs tells the story.. ..his afl best is the same as watto's, in my opinion they are on equal footing as far as proven form goes, except that Jones has triple the games experience and two more years in the system, for as much, or little,, to show for it as watto..

....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..


Nah, Jones shows more than Watson and will play a lot of football this year. Watson was in to see if he can replace Cas and he didn't show a hell of a lot.

For starters Jones can jump, and run, and turn.

Yes, 4 touches but almost took another 3 grabs (two big climbs) when delivery was @#$%&! awful, kicked two. Watson got 8 touches but 4 of them were in the last 10 minutes.


You and me might think Elementary kid did not show much, but you can't count on what MM might think.
I thought Jones was pretty good too.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 3:42 pm 
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Teams close enough.
Will come down to heart, game plan and nerves.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 4:04 pm 
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For me,
Jaksch Jamison Simpson
Yarran Rowe Docherty
Gibbs Cripps Carrazzo
Everitt Henderson Thomas
Menzel Casboult Jones
Warnock Judd Murphy
I/C; Curnow Bell Tuohy
Sub; Smith/Boekhorst
When Kreuzer comes back reckon Casboult could be in trouble..
When Walker comes back reckon Jones will be in trouble...


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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 5:07 pm 
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blueboy23 wrote:
For me,
Jaksch Jamison Simpson
Yarran Rowe Docherty
Gibbs Cripps Carrazzo
Everitt Henderson Thomas
Menzel Casboult Jones
Warnock Judd Murphy
I/C; Curnow Bell Tuohy
Sub; Smith/Boekhorst
When Kreuzer comes back reckon Casboult could be in trouble..
When Walker comes back reckon Jones will be in trouble...


+1. Exactamundo.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:08 pm 
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cimm1979 wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
..Robbie, I wouldn't think of the backup ruck as a main part of the forward line, because they drift in and out.. ..that's my own view.. ..currently bolt is the option, or Rowe.. ..we have tried Rowe up fwd as backup ruck without as much success as his kpd year.. ..that being said, he was still only recently returned from therapy so maybe with renewed fitness and strength he could be a good ruck fwd again..

..walker has been talked up by the club as a forward..

..jones might be athletic, but he is also very lazy.. ..needs to prove otherwise, but 6 yrs tells the story.. ..his afl best is the same as watto's, in my opinion they are on equal footing as far as proven form goes, except that Jones has triple the games experience and two more years in the system, for as much, or little,, to show for it as watto..

....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..


Nah, Jones shows more than Watson and will play a lot of football this year. Watson was in to see if he can replace Cas and he didn't show a hell of a lot.

For starters Jones can jump, and run, and turn.

Yes, 4 touches but almost took another 3 grabs (two big climbs) when delivery was @#$%&! awful, kicked two. Watson got 8 touches but 4 of them were in the last 10 minutes.




..Cimm, I agree about Jones' athleticism.. ..but if he put in the effort, even just now and then, he'd already be a much better player and he'd not have come to us for the cost a bag of stale chips.. ..it's his attitude.. ..if a player after six seasons needs to do extra work to try and catch up to the most basic level of afl fitness, it tells you something about their attitude and lack of professionalism....

....most probably I'm just sick of lazy footballers on our list and trading in a lazy footballer has set me against him.. ..some lazy efforts in the preseason hasn't got my juices flowing either..

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 6:59 pm 
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Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..


It's funny, I think all 3 of them play their best footy in defence. Our lack of talented forwards has led to Henderson playing forward and at times we might see Yarran and Jaksch down there too, but generally I think their better games have been played in the back half.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 23, 2015 8:25 pm 
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cecil89 wrote:
Big Kahuna Boot wrote:
....the basis of my fwd structure would be Hendo, KJ and Yazz.. ..at least half of the front six needs to be genuine talent..


It's funny, I think all 3 of them play their best footy in defence. Our lack of talented forwards has led to Henderson playing forward and at times we might see Yarran and Jaksch down there too, but generally I think their better games have been played in the back half.



....mostly because the bulk of their careers have been in defence as part of their /cough\ development..... ..apparently, you can't develop forwards, up forward.. .... ..obviously any player will have better games in the 50-100 game bracket, than sub 50 games..

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Last I checked we were paying $2.45. There's no way known the team we will be running out should be paying $2.45 against Richmond.

I feel pretty good about this game.


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Last I checked we were paying $2.45. There's no way known the team we will be running out should be paying $2.45 against Richmond.

I feel pretty good about this game.


Same.

Tigers come out full of running maybe even get an early lead.
MM puts the clamps on.
Tigers lose their ability to hit targets, structure and game plan.
We draw level.
Tiger players look to Harwick for solution. No answers there. (he is a bone head)
Tiger give up.
We kick away to win by 25 points.

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I just hope we stand up.

The forward line worries me. Who kicks our goals?

If: Thomas, Menzel, Jones, Bolt and Everitt kick 20+ each then we will be ok.

I also hope that Buckley, Tutt and Walker surprise up forward.

Our defence will be fine but can we get more points than the opposition?

Dunno

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Richmond will struggle to go with us if we kick >100 goals

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