There were 2 defining games that cost Ratten his job. The gold coast game and the Port game.
This game today should be a giant black cross on Malthouse
Lose to Collingwood next week the follow up with a loss to Stkilda we could potentially go on our worst losing streak ever
Malthouse should not survive this .
Eddie knew his time was up about tine we cut our losses abd move on

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Why on earth would you say that??

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How is a board spill gonna fix our playing list. I think some of you are so bored with life, that you prefer drama over success because you ain't got nothing better to do.

That's why I don't see any other choice than to fully rebuild.

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Success, how so?

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The current board has failed in their FD appointments over many years.

Time for a new board to rebuild the clubs FD personnel.

Here's what I'd do........

I would approach Mike Fitzpatrick and ask him to compile a list of the best football people in the industry that would be suitable for our new football director position.

From that I would make a short list of candidates and try poach one to become our football director and trust this person to rebuild this club from top to bottom.

His duties are.....

- to strategies and develop a plan for success.

-To identify the best list manager In the comp and get him to carlton. This list manager will appoint a new national recruiter and together assemble a strong recruiting network.

- to decide Mick Malthouses future. Do we keep Mick and appoint some fresh new faces around him like a ling or Hayes and bolster our development coaches or do we give him the flick and appoint a John Worsfold and Blake Caracella combo and rebuild the entire football department.

- he and the list manager must be ruthless regarding our list. He has to make the hard calls and I'd say no one bar Murph and Menzel are safe. Maybe Bucks and Docherty

The new CEO and president must go about changing the culture of the club. They need to make it clear what this club stands for. No more grand standing. No more arrogance. Cut the BS. Communicate better with members and most importantly to get everyone reading from the same page and that includes us embers and supporters.

Mike Fitzpatrick has failed the integrity test (re Essendon*)

I want him fr away from Carlton.

The obvious first step is for the club to stop living in denial and commence the rebuilding process from scratch. No quick fixes.

Sort out the off field issues including appointing a quality CEO

Manage the transition to a rebuilt team very carefully. Don't simply decimate the list because this could create bigger problems in the long term. Retain the right senior players who will provide some backbone during some lean years.

Rely on the draft to build the foundation. No top ups please. Steer away from FA in the short term.

Don't make any decision on Malthouse until late next year.

Undertake an independent review.

The CEO makes football department decisions. Greg Swan has been removed for a number of reasons. He failed to identify that we lacked quality in a number if crucial areas. Greg Swan was never interested in appointing a list manager as he enjoyed sitting in on a list management committee.

Greg swan is no linger at the club because Paul Roos had told the club (sticks actually) that he would coach us in 2014 but Greg Swan Wanted his mate Mick and convinced some important people to back him in. We went a year to early on Ratten and looks what happened. Now I'm not saying Roos would have us playing finals, but he is a smart football operator and the right man to lead change especially our culture.

We have a new president. A man who is fed up with the position we are currently in. A very passionate Carlton man who will drive change. He is very strategic and ruthless but. Est of all he's here for the right reasons. He's not here to pump up his own ego. For the celebrity status. He's here to drive change and change is coming. He has someone along side him for the ride that I pretty sure we all know how he is, together they will rebuild this club.

How about you go away and think about what you just said.

Well said.

The new Pres and CEO need to have everyone reading from the same page and that includes us supports.

We ain't dumb. We know we need to rebuild. Let's do it together.

Need to trade some of that core to get a couple of top 15 picks to go along with our own.

We don't have the guts to let Gibbs walk unfortunately.

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..it's what I have been saying, you've just got to draft now as if building a team from scratch, to grow together, organising the different timeline of role development..

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ratten may have lost his job because of two defining moments and games.

but in actual fact his tenure as a coach was whats killing us today....

look at the list
look at leadership
look at discipline
look at habits

we have a bunch of players who are filled with horrible stuff to play the game
we have nothing coming through
there is no real leadership
just a huge void

this is no accident.. its the result of many years of neglect by the club at every level

ratten tried to build around judd... clearly this doesnt work... judd isnt kouta and williams ...that ratten was accustomed to...

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Kouta and Diesel were surrounded with champions... Judd had to shoulder the load himself... big difference

The rest you're spot on... especially the underlined

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who?

i cant see any top 15 picks there.

not for anyone worth getting rid of anyway

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

that same group of players apart from the 16 mick has let go were playing better football under Ratten
malthouse has taken this club backwards

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He has 18 months to iron out the leadership the bad habits and the discipline but it has gotten worse
But the bloke who had cancer has improved
FMD blind Freddy can see Malthouse is past it
They are the worst coached side in the comp
No structure
No method
No idea

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I would see what hendo is worth on the market and trade if I could get a top 9 pick. But would not over invest in one draft. Trade someone else the next year too. Not sure who though as we have sweet fa to trade.

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