DocSherrin wrote:
ScottSaunders wrote:
if you cant see the comparisons of where Liverpool were 3 years ago to where they are today, then you need to get your eyes checked.
to dismiss their improvement as nothing more than "a rich EPL" club then you are just showing your ignorance. they have improved their position as a club by shrewd appointments, shrewd developments etc.. not flashed the clash like you would like to suggest just cause of their market value.
There value is all relative. Do EPL and AFL compete on a financial level, not at all, but when you compare what Liverpool have done, as opposed to the way Manchester City or Chelsea have doneand gone about the same thing, then absolutely Liverpool is the perfect example to emulate.
Take the @#$%&! blinkers off! Liverpool would have done exactly the same thing as Man City and Chelsea had they not incurred the wrath of UEFA's financial fair play rules. You had to curb your spending otherwise you wouldn't be playing Champions League in the future. All of the 231 clubs taking part this season had to provide UEFA with their accounts for the two previous years (2011/12 and 2012/13).
As Liverpool didn’t take part in the competition, they were not required to submit their accounts and cannot be punished this year. If Liverpool’s accounts had been assessed this season, they would certainly have failed the FFP "break-even" test and would have imposed a salary cap on their registered UEFA squad.
It's very easy for Paul Rodgers to then say 'it's all about belief in the system and excellent man-management which is worth more than spending a fortune on players'....that's just PR spin. If you believe it as a supporter - he has succeeded. He's a good manager - but he's in the right place at the right time. Look at it as success due to the failure if you like.
Anything else I should compare Liverpool to Carlton with? Can we get LeBron to invest in Carlton?
That's Brendan Rogers not Paul and that's a very harsh call on a young Manager who has got the Club from 7th to touching distance of the title and having spent nowhere near the amount of money clubs like City, United, and Chavski have.
Right place at the right time? he inherited an average squad after King Kenny's blew £100m on mostly rubbish and his transfer spend over 2 seasons has been ok but not great. I'm partisan but he's done a fantastic job improving young players like Henderson and Sterling, improving Gerrard who is playing in a new position and he's also got the best out of Suarez and Sturridge. And Suarez wanted out before the season started. That's not down to spin, it's down to coaching and player management.
Your analysis of LFC and FFP is incorrect, the Club hasn't incurred UEFA wrath at all, they are in the same boat as any other Club who wants a licence from UEFA to play in the Champions League/Europa League. The clubs owner John Henry who also owns the Red Sox bought the club because of FFP and the supposed level playing field it is going to bring. He is one of FFPs biggest cheerleaders.
The club is trying to comply with the FFP regulations and will make a profit in its next set of accounts. If anyone is going to incur the wrath of UEFA it's clubs like City and PSG and their dodgy sponsorship deals from a Emirates and Qatar respectively. If they miss the 'break even test' there are a range of penalties so suggesting a salary cap sanction is just a guess. In any event if you can demonstrate to UEFA that your accounts are trending to break even that is good enough to get a tick.
Like you I'm not sure any comparison with Carlton is useful except to show how important having a stable board of management, a sound recruiting system, and a excellent coach is.
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