I believe the club has no clue they are on a precipice with their fans.
An old outdated very uncool club that we are stuck with.
I can enjoy watching good footy played by other teams a few times a week,
but that's about it.
If I see no glimmer for the future soon, I'm happy to do other stuff till the changes come along.
Seems I'm not alone.
The time for supporting and being stoic for a few years while we catch up has passed.
Now it's all the club's own bungling and not an outside source.
They don't listen, and hey, it's even reflected in the pathetic service you get from the CFC shop.
You can read about that in another thread.
I was pro Roos but we couldn't get him.
Because I believe so much of this is a moral and mental thing, I thought he would help a lot.
I need my hope restored. Not just mine, everyone's.
I need to see the joy and passion for playing by the players. Right up until the final siren.
Don't ever stop trying.
I believe sweeping changes at the club are needed.

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That’s not a political statement — it’s a harsh reality, and we must act,” she said. “He is a clear and present danger to the things that keep us strong and free. I support impeachment.”

We're dissatisfied because we're not winning as many games as we would like to be winning.

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THEY LIKE TO SEND UP!!!!!!!!

Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

the club might listen to you and your concerns about this.. but the moment youre out the door they will 'tha se grapsoun sta arhidia tous .' basic translation is write your name down on their balls and thats it..

they have often lent us their ear in here.. how many times have people from the club been here saying they are here to learn from the grass roots... ??? quite a few...
they just dont act on anything.
if this isnt the laziest bunch of slugs that have ever had to do anything with our club ill say "he"

besides.. they dont have any money... they really dont....


but the worrying thing is... theyre not doing anything about that either.. the pokies will take care of that....

again....its not about pokies plus something else.... to grow it.. its pokies.

why pokies?
cos someone donated them to the club.. not because the club generated it with hard work

lazy.. lazy ... lazy....

plus inept

how is that a combo to get the wheels rolling forward??

well it isnt..

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I try to project where this club will be in two years time and I don't like what I see

That's what dissatisfies me

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“I would rather have questions that can't be answered than answers that can't be questioned.” ― Richard Feynman

At least when Tinkler took over the Newcastle Knights their members and fans knewvwhat they were getting into bed with. We are a privately owned club by stealth.

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The only way for some people to understand is for them to be on the receiving end

Left wing moralists
In self serving denial
They shit me no end

I haven't been this unenthused about football for a long time. It's not just about the ineptitude of CFC

Week 1 spread over 2 weeks - I couldn't have thought of a more stupid way to start the year

Yes I can - a NAB Series that means SFA

The prospect CFC won't win a flag for prob at least another ten years due to the ineptitude of CFC and the emergence of the new super teams GC and GWS

The AFLs ridiculous scheduling. No Saty 2.10 game today and indeed most weeks (I assume). Our first game so late on a Sunday night, can't attend with kids, even watching on TV took me hours for adrenalin to die down and eventually got to sleep around 2am which [REDACTED] up my Monday at work

The Ess saga was just so depressing in so many ways. Good to see Ess fry but what it said of the bigger picture of professional sport was sad

FA and the heightened erosion of loyalty in the game

I'm a bit over it to be frank

For the first time in a long time I'll probably consciously chose to not watch CFC games, that hasn't happened since I was 19 and going to nightclubs every night

Sorry this is my third post which is not allowed so will give GWS another reason to lay the boots into me but I felt these things needed to be said.

welcome to the suicide thread. See what happens if we win the next couple of games. Never liked this emotional overreaction most here enjoy.

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TC suffers from the social media illness - the death of respect and constructive discourse by keyboard.

the thirteen year old emotional overreaction???

oh ok.....

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There is a lot wrong with the club, but there have also been improvements. It all gets back to botching the rebuilt over a number of years - as you say 13 years. I am just saying that a lot here is just OTP. Key is to get a better president who drives improvement. Biggest problem is that our next "rebuilt" would happen smack in the middle of Suns and Giants dominating the competition for years.

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Yes Mikkey I am know generally around these parts for overreaction as are most of the posters who posted on this post
It's not simply or irrationally about losing a match it's about culture losing contact with your base losing the reason why people want to be part of it in the first place
The fact that these sentiments has struck such a chord with a lot of posters in here shows it's much more than win/loss records
I deliberately didn't come on here until Thursday after Sundays loss to avoid an irrational knee jerk reaction to a poor game

President alone wont change anything....
were too far up the road of poor culture which is out of control.
thats why its a thirteen year problem.. because its a 20 year cuture spanning across successive boards and presidents and CEOs and coaches.
Wont change now its better entrenched than they were eight years ago.
What must happen is the pest control comes in and fumigates everything for us to start again
Clearly thats not what is going to happen

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"Overreaction" generally comes from people realising they've been 'underreacting' for years. Straws and camels come to mind.

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Just because I'm offended, doesn't mean I'm wrong.

So Sinners has under reacted for years.

Well, let's see what happens this year. On and off the field. I still think a crucial step would be a good new President.... Not sure that's in the offering....

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Bruise free footy what a joke

I think youre right too

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Everyone looks good in Navy Blue

What I think about the club...board led by well meaning ex star who is way out of his depth and seems to have no vision, no plan, board members arrogant, out of touch, making knee jerk reactions, no plan ' no vision. Half of them weren't even elected. Disappointing CEO. Poor culture, spoiled self satisfied players, no leaders, few desperadoes, no personalities. Nasty, bitter mercenary coach, last 3 coaches sacked in contract that should tell us something about how well we make appointments. After Elliott we had a chance to joining the 21st century and build to greatness, instead we stayed on the 1980s, and opted for mediocrity on the board, the admin, coaching, recruiting, players. Mediocrity is the unifying factor across the club.

Just On one of your points, Gerry. I can't think of any coach (besides the ex-Sydney guy and Mark Thompson) who haven't been sacked in the last few years. Otherwise, I agree with EVERYONE.

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"In better news for Blues fans, Jarrad Waite was not named on the club's injury list."

Daisy, Daisy, Give me your answer, do .....

Basing a membership marketing campaign on the misguided, speculative recruitment of this player who hardly played due to injury for 18 months appears to be the hallmark of a go-nowhere quickly attitude within the Club. I wonder if any of those making decisions at the Club have a fair grasp of reality. I am lucky I am overseas so I don't have to observe on a daily basis how the club has lost its way and continues to reward mediocre performance at all levels - starting with the President.

We're dissatisfied because the club simply doesn't appear to have any clue how to operate in the 21st century. Other clubs are striving to be the best while Carlton sits back with a crownie in hand *thinking* it's the best.

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"One of my favorite philosophical tenets is that people will agree with you only if they already agree with you. You do not change people's minds." - Frank Zappa

What improvements have we made that other clubs haven't made as well?

All we've done is kept our heads above water

Coll, Haw, Rich, Ess, Geel are miles ahead of us with off field strategic planning and on field future success projections

We can now join NM, WB, Melb and StK, although I'd say the WB future on field looks better than ours (courtesy of some F/S I'll admit)

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

People talk about a change of prez and thats gunna fix things.
Look.. the concept of Sticks being chosen by the board was not because Sticks is a genius.... he doesnt make the genius decisions.
He was elected and re elected by the board because.... he maintains the status quo.
Now i do not know what you know about politics Mikkey.. but when people create a status quo when one piece leaves.. you can bet your bottom dollar.. there will be more status quo.

unless of course you believe that the club was driven by sticks.. and there was a massive support for this guy ... year in year out ..because they truly believe he is amazing presidential material.???

no... hes president because he adds stability to the board (thats Carlton pidgin English to maintaining whats going on ) and thats not going to change....
Sticks doesnt make decision and set plans going forward.

hes a dipsticks.. he is there solely as a symbol of stability and a front for others... he likes that...you see sticks is a proud , intelligent person..... he either enjoys being used... like a thing.. for others.. or he really believes the place cant function without him.

i think he dipsticks thinks abit of both and loves it...

i doubt hes read a book in his life... his favourite movies would be the Die Hard series ... he isnt much of a free thinker ... hes just sticks!!!... the guy Clarkson was talking about 2 or 3 weeks back in his article about boards and idols dont mix

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