Warnock took 15 marks for the season Doc. Get with the program. And he was shit in the praccie game last week. Gibbs needs to become a playmaker when the pressure goes up in big games. He goes missing and simply doesn't work hard enough when the ball isn't in his hands. If this doesn't change @#$%&! off back to Adelaide.

I was there. I thought Warnock was better than Minson who was the dominate ruckman in the competition last year. Anyway - we digress...what's the Pass Mark Keogh...???

My passmark is as follows
a/ finish in the 8
b/ beat filth,scum,bitchmond -twice
c/ beat dawks ( too long) ,cats ,swans
d/ not to lose to teams we should beat ala bulldogs,saints
e/improvemet in Watson,Casboult,Bell,
f/Waite to play at least 18games
g/Kreuzer to show us why he was No.I draft pick
h/Thomas to stay fit
Am i asking too much.I dont think so

Wins are great and ladder position is important, but I'd like us to make strides against contenders who are playing well.

No point finishing 6th if we get shown up by sides like the Hawks, Sydney, Freo and whoever is this years real contenders.

Beating Richmond is nice but we all know they don't represent any real threat to the flag.

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I hope Essendon* folds.

As we are going to win all those games you might as well add:

1. Win every game
2. Win premiership
3. Gibbs win Norm Smith Medal

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dane's trolling again

Your point on Warnock was well made but Gibbs was our best player in the crunch games against Port and Richmond last year. More to the point he was probably our only 4-quarter player in both games.

Flag...

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I reckon we will finish 9th...

A pass would be 8-5 and to win a final.

I think we will be the same as last year. Daisy's increase will cover Judd's decrease, but apart from that - we are the same list.

We still have poor skills, rush forward to players in a worse position or not ready to take the ball. We have an ordinary spine - still. Too many list cloggers...

We hope and pray each week that Waite, Warnock, Yarron, Bootsma, Levi etc suddenly hit their peak, but these "project players" still make up 40% of the weekly team.

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"...the less you know - the more you believe..." - Bono 2006

Win the close ones.

String at least 4 Wins together.

Beat at least one top 4 team.

Make the 8.

Beat Top 8 sides.

Beat Port this Sunday, I can't remember the last time I went Etihad and we won

I am not burdening myself with expectations this year.

Just make the finals,
& no Carlton players banned for drug use.

I'll be happy

I also think we are somewhat underrated without much reasoning as to why this is so. I can see how we will improve, but whether we do is another thing.

Players such as Gibbs, Murphy, Yarran and Kreuzer must realise more of their potential. Of these only Murphy in 2011 has played a full year at their potential, Yarran arguably in 2012. Gibbs has been a very good footballer with some outstanding games, but there is room for improvement. Kreuzer has been dissappointing for me for a variety of reasons and I think his room for growth is the greatest.

The young brigade must also begin to become more consistent and impact games. Here I am thinking of Menzel, Watson, Casboult, MacInnes and the like. Cripps is just a bonus is he can make an impact this year and it can not be expected

Can our older brigade make an impact. They have the skill and talent but do they have the buring desire and steely mindset we have so sorely lacked. Waite, Walker, Simpson, Carrots, Judd and the ilk fit this category.
With Malthouse his main role will be ensure we are 100% unified team behind his gameplan. a unified team with a strong bond can perform well above it's seeming talent level.

Pass Mark = 14 wins

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Have I run too far to get home?

My Wife and I were wondering today how our most dominant forward of recent times; Fevola....would've played under some Malthouse discipline.

Using some imagination; I look at this week's team, and how much better and dangerous the side would be with Fevola at FF.....he was a bloody good player; and we didn't take full advantage of the time we had him.

Anyway.....back to reality....

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Yeah he was great, the light at the end of the tunnel during our dark days. Problem was the club didn't know to keep him inline. But at the same time we got Hendo out of it.

Superb deal

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dane's trolling again

Malthouse had a few problems of his own at collingwood that his discipline couldnt control
Fev would have been no different

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They will create an Emergency to change the Laws

True....but excepting Judd when he first arrived....Fevola was the last matchwinning player we've had for yonks.....anyway...that was then.....gotta look forward.

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I think the Fevola legend will grow while supporters such as Warby are around.. Hopefully people won't forget that you never knew what you were going to get with Fevola. Well - actually you did....you knew exactly what he was going to do when we played Geelong, St.Kilda etc...zilch. We absolutely took full advantage of the time we had with him as most clubs would have delisted him.

Thanks to the Blueseum.

Brendan Fevola.

Career : 1999 - 2009
Debut : Round 17, 1999 vs Collingwood, aged 18 years, 185 days
Carlton Player No. 1034
Games : 187
Goals : 575
Guernsey No. 25
Last Game : Elimination Final, 2009 vs Brisbane, aged 28 years, 229 days
Height : 188 cm (6 ft. 2 in.)
Weight : 101 kg (15 stone, 12 lbs.)
DOB : 20 January, 1981
Coleman Medal 2006, 2009
All Australian 2006, 2008, 2009
Club Leading Goalkicker: 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2009
Victorian State Player: 2008
Allen Aylett Medal: 2008

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No ones listening till you make a mistake.

Great. How'd he go against Matty Scarlett and Max Hudghton?

I see it a bit differently. If Mick thinks that we're not even close to winning a flag (& I suspect he worked that out early last year) it's because we didn't make enough ground building a premiership club in 2008-2012. We had all those early picks, got Judd when he was in his mid 20s etc.....and where are we? Middle of the road. It's not all Ratten's fault, but as senior coach during the period he must take a large share of the responsibility.

I don't think Mick was brought in as a 'finisher', I think he was brought in to oversee a mini rebuild because the club realised we were on a road to nowhere.

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