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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 11:30 am 
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emtwenty wrote:
We just sacked a recruiter.

SOS is a recruiter at GWS.

Match made in heaven.

Any chance Sticks is saying this because something is in the pipelines, or am I just being naive :P


Isn't he List Manager at GWS? We have a List Manager.

I'm not a big believer in bringing people back to the club just because they played for it. We don't need him.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:27 pm 
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I for one would like to congratulate the club on it's approach to fiscal responsibility.

Anyone else whinging about Lance not being let in to the rooms want to take a guess at what that catering bill would have been like? We're not rolling in cash these days, and you fat cats want to roll out the silver platter of KFC, Carlton draught and harness racing betting slips like they're going out of fashion.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 1:55 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
We have a List Manager.

I'm not a big believer in bringing people back to the club just because they played for it.


Did you just contradict yourself Psych? Who's our 'list manager' again?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:00 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
I for one would like to congratulate the club on it's approach to fiscal responsibility.

Anyone else whinging about Lance not being let in to the rooms want to take a guess at what that catering bill would have been like? We're not rolling in cash these days, and you fat cats want to roll out the silver platter of KFC, Carlton draught and harness racing betting slips like they're going out of fashion.


Lance should have said to the doorman "But I'm James Packer"....

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:17 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
We have a List Manager.

I'm not a big believer in bringing people back to the club just because they played for it.


Did you just contradict yourself Psych? Who's our 'list manager' again?


I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:47 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 2:50 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:14 pm 
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harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


A CEO and Head Recruiter have no business being involved in List Management.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:18 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


A CEO and Head Recruiter have no business being involved in List Management.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 3:33 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


A CEO and Head Recruiter have no business being involved in List Management.


I'm not sure what business Swann has in the mix........negotiator I think.

Rogers makes sense though. On what grounds would have we recruited Docherty........gut feel?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:22 pm 
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harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


A CEO and Head Recruiter have no business being involved in List Management.


I'm not sure what business Swann has in the mix........negotiator I think.

Rogers makes sense though. On what grounds would have we recruited Docherty........gut feel?


I see that still as recruiting though Harks, not list management. It's more the contract negotiations and TPP that concern me re: McKay.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 4:27 pm 
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I know what you're saying but List Management encompasses many factors along with those coming and going.

Silvagni may have the single hold on the title at GWS but he wouldn't be the only one at the table when it comes to these discussions.

I just worry that egos may make a mess of things if roles and hierarchy aren't clearly defined............and then we have Mathieson wanting to stick his nose in.


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Out of interest, is or has Craig Bradley also been frozen out of the club following the salary cap scandal?


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:17 pm 
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Molly wrote:
Out of interest, is or has Craig Bradley also been frozen out of the club following the salary cap scandal?


I thought he distanced himself from the club.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 5:28 pm 
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Wasn't he doing some part time coaching at Carlton a few years ago?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:33 pm 
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The Rhino wrote:
I for one would like to congratulate the club on it's approach to fiscal responsibility.

Anyone else whinging about Lance not being let in to the rooms want to take a guess at what that catering bill would have been like? We're not rolling in cash these days, and you fat cats want to roll out the silver platter of KFC, Carlton draught and harness racing betting slips like they're going out of fashion.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:39 pm 
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DocSherrin wrote:
harker wrote:
DocSherrin wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
I'm not a fan of our current List Manager either! :wink:


Technically we don't have one. McKay is GM – Football Operations....it's written into his PD. If he gets hit by a bus tomorrow - it becomes Greg Swann's job. Not ideal...but we've become accustomed to 'not ideal' at Carlton.


We have a List Management Committee that comprises McKay, Swann, Rogers and Malthouse. That's our list management team.

Takes up all facets of List Management but could be too many cooks.
You'd think that they all have different roles within that group.


A CEO and Head Recruiter have no business being involved in List Management.




Couldn't agree more , CEO should look after business, The recruiter would not want to delist anyone he recruited.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 7:49 pm 
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....when SOS retired I recall an article he penned in the Newspaper saying that he preferred that his sons did not follow a career path in Aussie Rules...


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:02 pm 
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Molly wrote:
Out of interest, is or has Craig Bradley also been frozen out of the club following the salary cap scandal?


Not at all. He did his stint with Ratts...I think he was an outstanding midfield coach. He's pretty busy these days...doubt he would entertain another official role at the club.


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PostPosted: Wed Mar 12, 2014 8:08 pm 
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The_Wookie wrote:
Cretylus wrote:
....when SOS retired I recall an article he penned in the Newspaper saying that he preferred that his sons did not follow a career path in Aussie Rules...


[youtube]sazvnDkGbYk[/youtube]

"At this stage Id probably prefer them to do something else"
"Id much rather them be something else outside of football. Anything"


He was probably pretty jaded with the whole system at that stage, I'm guessing

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