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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:17 pm 
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Swan should clarify his statement to make it clear that his comments referred to Essendon*'s use of WADA prohibited drugs such as AOD9064 which meets the conventional definition of cheating in sport, but that he understands that Essendon* considers it has not cheated because its use of these drugs only occurred as a result of institutional incompetence rather than malicious intent.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:39 pm 
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:40 pm 
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Swann should subpoena Dank.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 10:54 pm 
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Do not apologise to these vucknuckles. Essendon* should be shamed, and crawl back to their hole. Their PR machine has duped many, but I say call their bluff, and ask for other clubs to back them up. EFC* have gone rogue - they need to be shot down!


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:01 pm 
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Tell them to take it to court and prove they didn't cheat.


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:03 pm 
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aramari wrote:
Do not apologise to these vucknuckles. Essendon** should be shamed, and crawl back to their hole. Their PR machine has duped many, but I say call their bluff, and ask for other clubs to back them up. EFC** have gone rogue - they need to be shot down!


Apparently they've lodged a demand with us last Tuesday, but we haven't bothered responding. Must be busy at the moment with something. :razz:

Let it drag on, and the day it goes to court let them know that we apologised in a letter but it seems they must have misplaced it.....

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 11:08 pm 
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Why does it make me think of this??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23830777


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 2:15 am 
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Juanita Jones wrote:
What did Swann say?


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-12/d ... heat-claim

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:15 am 
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Do what you have to do for the cameras Swanny, but the people that count support and agree with you 100%. Quite happy for my membership $$$'s to go towards this.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:20 am 
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camelboy wrote:
Juanita Jones wrote:
What did Swann say?


http://www.afl.com.au/news/2013-09-12/d ... heat-claim

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What a pisser. They will sue every mother than their dog, but the simp,e fact of the matter is they cheated.

Having said that, Swann is an idiot to have made that comment.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 6:52 am 
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they're acting in quite a deranged fashion - management needs overthrowing


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 7:24 am 
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Just imagine if we reacted like this every time we've been called cheats. FMD, we'd have no actual money left.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:10 am 
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Let the courts settle it.
Either they cheated or they didnt.
The court should be able to settle on what is legal soon either way
Still , Swann isnt the smartest CEO going around

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:17 am 
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A statement from Greg Swann should do it:

"I'd like to clarify my comments made on SEN the other day, when I referred to Carlton being permitted to enter this year's finals series as a result of Essendon*'s cheating.

I retract this comment and would like to take this opportunity to clarify the club's position on this.

Essendon* did not cheat. They were expelled from this year's finals series for engaging in a pharmacologically experimental program engaged in and implemented by their staff on the playing group, without sufficient checks and balances to ensure that it was conducted fairly, ethically, safely or legally. It was conducted on a scale never seen before in the history of this great game and deservedly resulted in the heaviest sanctions ever enforced by the league. Noting that this sanctions were implemented as part of a settlement with the Essendon* Football Club for their cooperation with the investigation process, one can only imagine what the full extent of penalties may have been if the hearing before the AFL Commission was allowed to run its full course.

The distinction of my position on these matters is important and I thank the Essendon* Football Club for allowing me the opportunity."


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:30 am 
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Synbad wrote:
Let the courts settle it.
Either they cheated or they didnt.
The court should be able to settle on what is legal soon either way
Still , Swann isnt the smartest CEO going around


We have heard Brian Cook, Richard Colless and Peter Gordan speak on the matter and send a similar message and not get into hot water.
Then we have;

Sticks; they are good blokes, they did not kill anyone,
Swann; KB they cheated and off to court.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:30 am 
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nck wrote:
Why does it make me think of this??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23830777


you cant compare them to Lance. Lance won when he cheated. They cant even get that right.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 8:35 am 
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The Vet wrote:
nck wrote:
Why does it make me think of this??

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/cycling/23830777


you cant compare them to Lance. Lance won when he cheated. They cant even get that right.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:12 am 
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woof wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Let the courts settle it.
Either they cheated or they didnt.
The court should be able to settle on what is legal soon either way
Still , Swann isnt the smartest CEO going around


We have heard Brian Cook, Richard Colless and Peter Gordan speak on the matter and send a similar message and not get into hot water.
Then we have;

Sticks; they are good blokes, they did not kill anyone,
Swann; KB they cheated and off to court.


They were expelled for bringing the game into disrepute.. the ASADA investigation in ongoing but they were not expelled for doping.
Swann is a dope!

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 9:14 am 
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He should clarify his statement - he meant they cheated themselves by running an amateur club. Governance!


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 13, 2013 10:41 am 
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How are they gonna prove they didnt cheat when they don't keep records.
:screwy: Onus is on them to prove they didn't cheat and were defamed. :grin:


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