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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:33 pm 
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Norf have kicked 15.6 in their game at Etihad.

What do they do differently?


Lindsay Thomas couldn't kick a goal to save his life a few years back, this year he has 25.
Last year Jeffrey couldn't kick straight or make the distance from 50, this year he kicking from long range and pretty straight.
Kruise couldn't miss when he started, now can't even buy a goal....
If Fev missed a few early, had a bad day..

I reckon it's all in the head.... Like golf, you start missing a few short putts and every time you have one its starts playing on the mind.... Like par 3 with a water hazard, I know my ball is always going there....

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 5:33 pm 
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doofdoof wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Norf have kicked 15.6 in their game at Etihad.

What do they do differently?


Kick straight

walked right into that one...

But it's the single reason that they're going to win.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:00 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Norf have kicked 15.6 in their game at Etihad.

What do they do differently?


Kick straight

walked right into that one...

But it's the single reason that they're going to win.


Or not.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:21 pm 
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Explore the possibility of hiring, (part time if necessary) someone like Jason Dunstall.

He was copybook in his approach; function, and accuracy in kicking a goal.

Even Fev cost us games with stupid misses from close in.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 6:39 pm 
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ask our fwd line coach and y .We can ask him also why our fwds never lead ,i believe his not doing a good job .


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:03 pm 
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Time for Fossil's Academy of Reliable Kicking

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:39 pm 
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Warby wrote:
Explore the possibility of hiring, (part time if necessary) someone like Jason Dunstall.

He was copybook in his approach; function, and accuracy in kicking a goal.

Even Fev cost us games with stupid misses from close in.



how many did he cost us??? .. and did you watch Dunstall kick every goal he should have?
Are you sure he didnt miss???

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:43 pm 
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Synbad wrote:
Warby wrote:
Explore the possibility of hiring, (part time if necessary) someone like Jason Dunstall.

He was copybook in his approach; function, and accuracy in kicking a goal.

Even Fev cost us games with stupid misses from close in.



how many did he cost us??? .. and did you watch Dunstall kick every goal he should have?
Are you sure he didnt miss???

That hawthorn game sure sticks out


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 7:47 pm 
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chelodina wrote:
Synbad wrote:
Warby wrote:
Explore the possibility of hiring, (part time if necessary) someone like Jason Dunstall.

He was copybook in his approach; function, and accuracy in kicking a goal.

Even Fev cost us games with stupid misses from close in.



how many did he cost us??? .. and did you watch Dunstall kick every goal he should have?
Are you sure he didnt miss???

That hawthorn game sure sticks out

yeah thats one.

the adelaide game does also

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 8:48 pm 
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I recall seeing on here a couple of years ago a post that mentioned a player was working to improve goal kicking by having 100 shots for gaol at training for the week.

Country footballers do that with a couple of 10 year old supporters kicking the couple of footys back and no other support staff.

Surely if a professionsal footballer nowadays is serious about improving their kicking, they could have 100 or more shots per night after normal training or earlier in the day without eating too much into their Playstation 4 or Wii gametime.

It might be hard to replicate match conditions, but most of our poor misses have been from set shots.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:04 pm 
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Donstuie wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Norf have kicked 15.6 in their game at Etihad.

What do they do differently?


Kick straight

walked right into that one...

But it's the single reason that they're going to win.

Having a good night? :lol:

Can kicking be improved by the time a player reaches his early 20's, or is it too late by then?

Something that needs to be asked before recruiting players with poor foot skills...

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:17 pm 
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RE: Set Shots - It's all about the proper mental approach, using the similar techniques golfers use as part of their pre shot routine, basketballers at the free throw line and rugby players taking conversions.

The key with each of these is to clear the mind and go through the pre shot routine and NEVER deviate from this routine. When the pressure is on, focussing on the routine limits the mind from wandering into negative areas. Things like visualising and picking a small target behind the goals also come into play. These things can all be taught and need to be practised under pressure circumstances and not just for a bit of fun at the end of training.

The only caveat to this is poor technique. With the exception of Levi and possibly Judd, most of our players techniques are ok.

Watch our guys for consistency of routine during set shots. How many of them go through the identical routine each time? Then compare this to the NRL's Jonathan Thurston kicking conversions. He never deviates from his routine and he rarely misses.

Any 2 bit sports psychologist can coach this (psych, can you qualify?). It's about adhering to it and practising.

A US Sports Psychologist named Bob Rotella worked with golfers and baskbetballers has written loads of stuff on this.

I'd like to know what we've done.


Agreed. The Mongalloyd had a non variable technique. He copped shit for throwing grass in the air at Etihad.

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 9:37 pm 
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Different players have different flaws.

Robbo doesn't point his toes in the direction the ball needs to go.

Kruze is taking way too long a run up ... he is better off having a small stutter at the beginning ... get nice and balanced and then take a few more steps before he kicks. I find with his run up he this stutter about 3/4 of his run up. His run up is different to when he first started.

By and large a lot of our players miskick from short distances because they try to caress the ball in. If they are say 20 metres out they try to kick it 21 metres ... just clear the goal umpires head. In doing this their knee is bent at a very high point which is unnatural. If they are 20 metres out they should try and kick it 40 metres ... far more natural style in a 40 metre kick from a standing start.


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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:03 pm 
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Dont want to be lead down the teack of thinking goal kicking is our main problem as its not .
Leaking goals quickly at the other end is more of an issue . Goals come easy when you are winning easily our lack of ability to stop an opposition run has an effect down in front of goal

To much pressure on every shot

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:22 pm 
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I hear Vic Metro kicked 12.28 today - sounds like our kind of guys!

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:31 pm 
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BlueLife wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
doofdoof wrote:
Donstuie wrote:
Norf have kicked 15.6 in their game at Etihad.

What do they do differently?


Kick straight

walked right into that one...

But it's the single reason that they're going to win.


Or not.

That's two I've walked right into now

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PostPosted: Sun May 26, 2013 10:54 pm 
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When having a set shot for goal you must have a routine and that must remain consistent. You also find a lot now a days players turn their back on the goals. We were always taught to look at the goals when walking back for your kick. This keeps you focussed on your target and I believe is part of the routine. I know things have changed but players in general seem more casual when having a shot for goal. I used to remember the likes of Hudson, Lockett, Dunstall and McKenna etc. They were very purposeful in their approach. Naturally the game's a lot faster and more pressurised now but it's goals that win matches.


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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:48 am 
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mots wrote:
When having a set shot for goal you must have a routine and that must remain consistent. You also find a lot now a days players turn their back on the goals. We were always taught to look at the goals when walking back for your kick. This keeps you focussed on your target and I believe is part of the routine. I know things have changed but players in general seem more casual when having a shot for goal. I used to remember the likes of Hudson, Lockett, Dunstall and McKenna etc. They were very purposeful in their approach. Naturally the game's a lot faster and more pressurised now but it's goals that win matches.

mate in those days fullforwads didnt run chase etc ... and they nothing but kick a ball at the goals..
secondly if you watch the old videos they took a minute to kick the ball....its weird to watch how much the game has been sped up

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:47 pm 
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''Blues admit pressure for goal kicking misses''

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/b ... 2n6bl.html

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PostPosted: Mon May 27, 2013 7:48 pm 
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Warby wrote:
''Blues admit pressure for goal kicking misses''

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/b ... 2n6bl.html

Thanks for that Warby....

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