joke of an appointment.

In name only, perhaps. The reality is that titles really don't mean that much. But $8,500,000 (over the last 5 years) is no joke. Jeannie is welcome on the board as far as I'm concerned. She just has to be handed the right 'portfolio'. Word of warning - don't let looks deceive you.

Yep, good of him to come on, but besides something about the 150th jumper and a recruitment announcement in the next 48hrs there wasn't much but the company line in his answers.

Maybe that was because of the questions that were asked, but I thought molsey asked a couple of really good questions about the type of change he's seeing and TheSheik asked one about our current administrators that I thought could have been answered differently (i.e longer term administrators rather than the new ones).

My question about the changes to the coaching structure and whether we looked at other coaches like Hinkley, Cameron or Sumich and how we ended up without a full-time midfield coach didn't make the cut. I assume he wasn't there to answer football department questions, and that's fair enough given it was a social gathering.

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Whe is she welcome on the board?
What are her philosophies for the Carlton footy club Doc?

Give us a run down of them??

hmmmmm unless youre saying our clubs board seats are for sale to the highest bidders.. abitliike buying a seat in the box (Doctor Edelestein) and then making public comment on who is a suitable coach for the club.

Its actually quite pathetic and desperate .

unless u can fill us in on what she has done for direction and what are her philosphies and how she has influenced the clubs direction to ascend the mediocre???

Besides this has been the status quo goings on around the club for a while.. and it doesnt seem to have paid dividends....

So why do we need the club to be rich peoples play thing?

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What's the scoop re the recruiting dept I wonder?

I'm pretty sure they've been answered on here Brad! Not sure you got the answer you wanted or perhaps you got a few different answers. But seeing as Ryan came on board in November - he's probably not the right one to ask.

Ok so the clubs initiative is to have a board director who cant answer questions on a questions and answers forum???

yup!!!.. i got it!!!...

So why not get someone like Jeannie Pratt or Sticks???

Is Ryan the man with more time on his hands than everybody else or what???

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not much substance in that Q&A

Are you seriously asking me to answer that? (although I wouldn't have used the term 'play thing' ...well, not since Ralph Carr forked out $500k for a seat on the board).

I want you to take a quick look at the Western Bulldogs board. It won't take long.

http://www.westernbulldogs.com.au/club/governance/board

See how they have 8 people? We should be doing that. See how they have assigned roles/portfolios and areas of responsibilities under their name? We should be doing that. See how well these people are connected to businesses / universities / corporate social responsibility / other boards? We do a little of that, but the Bulldogs do it better. This is a progressive board. See how they have only one former footballer? We should probably do that too. See how no board members are related to each other? That's probably something Carlton could try....

There are 1500 models out there. This is a good model for an AFL Club. No confusion. Set roles. Made public. You wanna talk Football - see Chris Grant. You've got a finance question? Gary Kent is your man. It works. Peter Gordan took over the reigns in December, and already - they're seeing positive change.

Forget the money part. That followed them when they worked to positions of authority or built businesses. These are well connected individuals with a passion for their club. With a good President - they can achieve the things they set out to do. We've got passion at Carlton - but it's poorly directed and not harnessed in the right direction. That's the challenge for our board. I pray that it resembles this before too long. I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's a hell of a long way from where we've been and where we currently are.

Not sure I've seen any answers to those questions here. The answer of course is no we didnt look at anyone else. Answer to the other question is a little less obvious.

I reckon Ryan would have been across things before he joined the board in November. God help us if he wasn't, hoping we have a good one here.

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Of course im serious.

and im tired of them.... theyre a joke..

43/44 k members.

Race to the bottom

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Evening All,

After just returning home, I thought I would review your feedback of the session. Thank you.

Tonight I volunteered my time to Luca to represent the club and being a new director, I hoped that I could assist in offering communication and insight as I promised when I met with a range of supporters late last year from your forum at the “social gathering’.

Against the popular view here, I actually do have a life with 3 children under 6 years old, running a company and on several boards – so hopefully you don’t see me as the Director “with time on his hands” more so from a club that genuinely is working towards addressing many issues you raise in your forum and engaging with members.

My apologies if I didn’t address all football questions, but without rolling out the company line, I have joined the board after last season and although I was across some of the points you raised, I had no influence on the outcomes. My role on the board to date is to provide entrepreneurial experience to assist the club achieves many things you have outlined. I will pass onto the Club you would like a football related person next time though.

I think our team has excelled in communication recently with a number of initiatives and as I mentioned tonight, there is a lot going right at our club and I would also ask you to reflect on this as well. I understand everyone is very passionate but I can assure you people are equally as passionate at the club and there is momentum.

Actions will always speak louder of words and I believe over the next 12 months you will see the hard work the club has been doing. Engaging with members is obviously at the top of the list.

I am on the board representing members so I am fair game in this forum. I appreciate the honesty.

I will continue to make myself available and if you have suggestions re a better format, please let me know.

Regards

Ryan

I agree with this. But with regard to Q&A exercises like tonight I think what always seems to be missing (we've had a number of sessions on TC over the years) is specific answers to the questions. Too often the supporter aims a considered, interesting question only to be met with the standard generic upbeat line. Which for the hardcore supporter is not enough.

But appreciate your efforts anyway.

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We've hired a half back flanker as a scout...

Thanks for coming on here Ryan. It's a tough crowd, but at least you receive the benefit of unfiltered and honest feedback.

By the way, I think I speak for most Carlton supporters when I say that the thing we desire most from season 2013 (besides making firm steps towards Flag No.17) is Essendon* getting absolutely reamed by ASADA/WADA/the AFL. So anything our board can do to grease the wheels of justice, please do so with our blessing.

Thanks for your time Ryan.
Please pass on our suggestions for the banner for the Bombers game.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Thanks Ryan

Firstly for your time given to the club in your capacity as a board member and secondly for the Q&A

I think its good the club is trying to reach out to its supporters with initiatives such as these but to be quite honest I think the die hards around these traps are sick of hearing the same seemingly generic answers trotted out from Q&A to Q&A.

I think most of the intelligent die hards as well though would understand there isn't really much more that can be given in such a format anyway.

Above all, we want to see results - the time for corporate double speak and wishy washy statements is long gone. we have been a basket case for far too long and have a mountain of work ahead to get the club back where it belongs.

i wish you all the best in your endeavors to make this happen.

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Ryan,

I apologise if accusing you of trotting out the company line with some of your responses seems unfairly critical, but as others have mentioned we're looking for more than the standard, generic responses we've heard from others in the past. CK95 put it very well I think.

My first post in this thread was to thank Luca for organising and advising us of the Q&A and to pass on our appreciation to you. We do appreciate the time you've taken to answer our questions.

We're hearing a lot about the changes taking place at the club, some of them are visible in terms of the increased social media presence and reaching out to members, which is fantastic.

If I can offer some constructive feedback though, the push to 50,000 members to move to the MCG comes across as putting the onus on supporters, almost emotional blackmail, rather than enticing supporters to become members because the club values you.

To put it another way, supporters should become members because they love the club and feel valued and appreciated...not so we can get 50,000 to move to the G.

It might not seem like much, but there is a difference. As part of the changes and review I hope we're looking at how other clubs interact with supporters and convert them to members by making them feel valued.

Keep the good news coming. Im sure its tough dealing with the negativity from supporters and members, I hope you can see it as an opportunity to gain feedback as well.

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...And therein lies part of the problem. Did anyone read my post on the Bulldogs? Every board member has a 'portfolio' that the supporters know about. So if we do another Q&A it might be better to spell it out that e.g Ryan will talk about new innovation at the club, some change in direction at membership, 2013 marketing initiatives, plans for 2014, what he's working on with Jay, Clinton etc etc...perhaps even with a move to do back-to-back Q&A with a 'football' related issues the following week and Andrew McKay answering some questions (because when it comes to football matters - I don't really want to hear from a board member).

Unfortunately, it needs to be spelled out.

FWIW, I think there has been increased transparency, and that is what a lot of members want to see. But there is no pleasing some supporters (I'm looking at you Synbad, Brad). The Q&A sessions like last night are good for the people who want to be involved. If you don't want to participate, don't log on. And if you didn't get anything from it - it doesn't mean that someone else didn't. But there's no doubt they probably need to be fine tuned and perhaps the suggestion of just answering questions from the board members area of responsibility is the way to go.