the question wasn't about flags

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i addressed the prelim question as where we need to be at....

time???

lets see... just we will be in a better position with malthouse than we have been under ratts....

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not willing to set a target for top 4 then, fair enough

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Spot On. As much as I love Footy & Carlton , I need the occasional reminder to put it into perspective.

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Right on both counts, actually.

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Last person to do that was thrown under the bus by his mate!!!..... you crazy????

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Should be pushing for top 4 minimum. A good trade and draft period and with our list I believe 14-15 wins is a minimum requirement.

Unless of course we have injuries.

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The playing group is the problem too.

Frankly we are spineless, Jamo ? full back if fit,Hendo CHBack an improving work in progress, Centrehalf forward Waite ?,but only plays a 1/3 of season uninjured,Fullforward ? Walker,Levi still
unproven.
Ratts has been blamed for all our failures, i dont believe he deserves that .

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That's not the kind of spine I'd be worried about personally.

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1 year....2013...top 4.

In 2011 we won 14 games, and then won a final but we missed the prelim by 5 points in a game played away from home on WCE home ground, and Kreuzer, Hampson, Waite, Gibbs missing, Jamison on one leg, Setanta and TBird as our KPF's with TBird lasting only the first half after being stretchered off and a lot of inexprienced kids playing like Davies....all this against the tallest team in the comp and only went down because Tex didn't receive the free kick he should have.

In 2012 we expected top 4, so I can't see why we wouldn't in 2013. With half the team out with injury/ suspension we still got 11 wins out of the season.

So with a fitter and stronger list next year, a coupla new recruits (expected) and another preseason into the kids, we should end up top 4.

We can compete against Swans, Pies, Cats, and I'm sure we'll be aiming to beat Crows, Hawks and Kangas...so why not top 4 for whoever coaches next year.

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Very clever Jimmae but I'm not conncinced it's not all linked.

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If we expected top 4 this year then I would do the same for next year. We have the list with a fit squad (and a decent coach too).

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