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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:41 pm 
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Score meant nothing. They toyed with us and Longmire was not happy.

Sydney play a great disciplined game that will serve them well in finals. They are a club with a great culture and structures.

Something which we should try and emulate.
They didn't toy with us, that's crap. We matched them in general play, they used it way better going forward and were outstanding in defence. We used it badly going forward and kicked at goal terribly. Underdone, undermanned, were always up against it. Thing is in all this we've found some young players who can play. Did ok against the very best but could've been better still.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:41 pm 
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Were outlclassed all over the ground, but fought it out. Time to give some other youngsters some game time, eg Mitchell, O'keefe, Lucas, and start post season surgeries now.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:41 pm 
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@Carlton_FC: "We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:43 pm 
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Ratten: "There were a lot of encouraging signs today but we missed a lot of opportunities."

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"We gave them a lot of easy goals."

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"I thought Jarrad was great. Simpson started slowly but his confidence grew as the match went on."

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"We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

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"Yeah, we're still a chance (to make finals). Our form since the Port game has been pretty good."

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"Jamison hurt his hamstring. He was in really good form."

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Kreuzer: "Yeah, I reckon we can still make it. Our focus is now on Brisbane."


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:45 pm 
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I feel bad for Jamo. His last 11 or so quarters of footy have been pretty good, then he does a hammy.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:45 pm 
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Warby wrote:
We're still very predictable, and our field kicking to each other is woeful.

I think the 22 pt. loss flatters us in that we never looked likely to win, but I was pleased we outscored them in the last qtr; and it wasn't junk time for them either.

Casboult and Bell are examples of the youth who are our future whilst we still have Simmo; Carrots and Judd to show the way.

Didn't flatter us, it was probably the right margin. Might've flattered them more given our goalkicking. How many went out on the full?!!!


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:46 pm 
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Effort and intensity was there for the most part. Just lacked class, poise and structure compared to a very well drilled and well coached unit.

Dominated the third, general play and inside 50's, yet never looked likely to put it on the scoreboard. The fact they outscored us shows we still have a long way to go.

Levi's marking was a small highlight but his kicking is atrocious. How can you not kick at this level? I don't understand.

McInnes continues to show good signs. As does Bell.

Touhy was ordinary and Davies was horrible IMHO when he came on.

White was a mixed bag but overall ok.

Gibbs no impact. Again. Some of his kicks today were very, very ordinary.

Thought Waite was good first up. Jamo was having a blinder, shame about the injury. Again.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 pm 
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jim wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Score meant nothing. They toyed with us and Longmire was not happy.

Sydney play a great disciplined game that will serve them well in finals. They are a club with a great culture and structures.

Something which we should try and emulate.
They didn't toy with us, that's crap. We matched them in general play, they used it way better going forward and were outstanding in defence. We used it badly going forward and kicked at goal terribly. Underdone, undermanned, were always up against it. Thing is in all this we've found some young players who can play. Did ok against the very best but could've been better still.


They read us like a book - knew what play we'd do before we even did it - they hardly let us have any unpressured play at all

Sydney are well drilled, competitive animals.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:48 pm 
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Pretty good game to watch. Strange umpiring but its a hard game to umpire.

Playing the kids and a few back after being out for a long time would always make it difficult. We did well to lose by only 20pts.

I like the Swans midfield. The size, skill and balance of players like Okeefe, Jack, Hanneberry, Kennedy, Mcviegh, Bird and mcglynn gave them the advantage around every contest.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:49 pm 
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jim wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
Score meant nothing. They toyed with us and Longmire was not happy.

Sydney play a great disciplined game that will serve them well in finals. They are a club with a great culture and structures.

Something which we should try and emulate.
They didn't toy with us, that's crap. We matched them in general play, they used it way better going forward and were outstanding in defence. We used it badly going forward and kicked at goal terribly. Underdone, undermanned, were always up against it. Thing is in all this we've found some young players who can play. Did ok against the very best but could've been better still.


Don't agree, they came out firing then cruised. Longmire was ropeable after the game with their lack of intensity and how they went away from their team rules.

They always had the game under control. We were NEVER in it.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:51 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
@Carlton_FC: "We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

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Scary isn't it. Shouldn't we try and win from the start. I just hope for the rest of the season we play him in the guts and let him hunt the ball. Get him back to why he was drafted number 1

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:52 pm 
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Waite has to go back if he is to get a few more years out of his body ala Tarrant. He is bashed and crashed too often and is one of the rasons he is injured so much. He will stay on the park longer as a back man.

We then to develop the forward line around Hendo and Levi or one of the resting rucks. Yarran has to be in the middle and moving forward kicking goals.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:54 pm 
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ThePsychologist wrote:
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@Carlton_FC: "We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

:-)


Scary isn't it. Shouldn't we try and win from the start. I just hope for the rest of the season we play him in the guts and let him hunt the ball. Get him back to why he was drafted number 1


We've unearthed a potential gun who dominates Goodes when moved onto him, yet have no faith in giving him a shot from the start.

Brad, love your focus on anything positive, but reality is obvious sometimes.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:55 pm 
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Went to only my 2nd game this year.

Saw one really well skilled, well structured unit.

As for us....poor skills, poor decision making, but what was so stark was our woeful structure, particularly up forward.

Dumb players, poor coaching, or both?

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:56 pm 
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There was a fair bit of contrast when Cas was forward, compared to when Kreuzer was resting there.

Shows you the impact a KPF has on the game. Kruezer never got near it, Cas created a contest, took some good grabs and once he gets some fitness and kicking into him, he'll have a bit of Tom Hawkins about him.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:58 pm 
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Didn't play well but didn't drop our heads and still tackled and chased which is a positive. Midfield was beaten so we were probably lucky to get as close as we did but a 22 point loss to the league leaders with our outs isn't a terrible result all things considered.

Nice first up game from Waite and to a lesser extent White. Bell worked hard again but his disposal needs a lot of work. Casboult with a couple of big grabs but needs to improve his kicking and defensive work pretty quickly because a spot on the senior list is far from guaranteed. Curnow and Collins didn't bring much to the table. Yarran tried to create at least and took a nice mark going back with the flight. McInnes was once again pretty solid besides one or two stuff ups. Simpson should be better for the run and even after a busted jaw still threw himself around with no regard for his safety. Wasn't overly impressed with Gibbs work in midfield. Congestion takes away his strengths.

Few blokes playing tonight will hopefully struggle to get a game next year but there's a bit there for the new coach to work with.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:01 pm 
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Braithy wrote:
There was a fair bit of contrast when Cas was forward, compared to when Kreuzer was resting there.

Shows you the impact a KPF has on the game. Kruezer never got near it, Cas created a contest, took some good grabs and once he gets some fitness and kicking into him, he'll have a bit of Tom Hawkins about him.


Hopefully we will just keep playing him. Look at the time put into Hawkins, still being put into Reid, they take time but worth it in the end.

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:01 pm 
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King Kenny wrote:
ThePsychologist wrote:
King Kenny wrote:
@Carlton_FC: "We moved Bryce into the middle because we felt the game was getting away from us."

:-)


Scary isn't it. Shouldn't we try and win from the start. I just hope for the rest of the season we play him in the guts and let him hunt the ball. Get him back to why he was drafted number 1


We've unearthed a potential gun who dominates Goodes when moved onto him, yet have no faith in giving him a shot from the start.



Once they realised Goodes wasn't able to kick through the ball i reckon they realised they didnt need gibbs on him. Mcinnes did well in the second half. He would have got a lot from that game.

The rest of the season is going to interesting to watch now that finals are pretty much done.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:03 pm 
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Back from the game. Never seemed in it. Smashed at clearances, but apart from that Ok
Dominated possession in patches but bombed it in to the fwd line again and again :banghead:
Bit of composure entering F50 would of made a big difference
Yarran and Jamo very good, Jamo injured AGAIN
Leave Curnow out, but stick with Bell
Worried about Casboults kicking....


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 05, 2012 7:04 pm 
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Didn't play well but didn't drop our heads and still tackled and chased which is a positive. Midfield was beaten so we were probably lucky to get as close as we did but a 22 point loss to the league leaders with our outs isn't a terrible result all things considered.

Nice first up game from Waite and to a lesser extent White. Bell worked hard again but his disposal needs a lot of work. Casboult with a couple of big grabs but needs to improve his kicking and defensive work pretty quickly because a spot on the senior list is far from guaranteed. Curnow and Collins didn't bring much to the table. Yarran tried to create at least and took a nice mark going back with the flight. McInnes was once again pretty solid besides one or two stuff ups.


We don't have anymore outs than the top sides.

Ridiculous comments on Casboult, he is a kid and doing well. He isn't going anywhere.

Thought Collins was pretty good.

McInnes was fantastic when played in right spot.

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