I have never said he isn't a good coach but I will say he isn't the right coach for this group and for this period in our history.

Having worked at an AFL club going through a similar circumstance and having the experience I do it is one area I am positive on.

Mind you I am more than happy to be proven wrong because all I want to see is us at the top of the tree again as it has been to long.

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Or that he's gutless for selecting AJ, Curnow and Armfield.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

You might be right...don't forget we know each other and I'm well aware of your credentials. Coming from a professional (individual) sporting environment - I don't place as much credence in the coach as you do. Not sure what style of coach will get the best out of this group...and I'd like your opinion on what coach would, but be warned... if you say Mick Malthouse, I'm never playing golf with you again.

cringeworthy

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Nah it was slightly amusing
You may disagree with content but it was slightly funny

Think people need to chill out a bit and treat this place like it is group of people sitting in a pub talking footy

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Which part? Psych is an ex-army, ex-VFL footballer who has worked at the highest level within his profession for the AFL. He's stubborn as all hell, but sometimes people's professional backgrounds need airing to show where they're coming from...particularly when it translates to the topic we talk about on here. Besides - I often disagree with the individuals I know on this forum...Synbad and AGRO being prime examples!

sorry i meant the OP

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

Yes. I thought that had been agreed on already...

then why ask me which part??

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Yeah but whatabout your whataboutism.

@doc.

You know my opinion on Ratten and it has never been about his ability to coach. IMO he is just the wrong person for this group. I could write a thesis on how ridiculous it is to put a new untrained coach in with a new group of kids that have had no success. Put simply it very rarely works.

No I wouldn't pick Malthouse because he is more stubborn than me and I don't believe he would "fit in".

If Mathews was hungry I would chase him but he simply isnt interested. Whoever it is he needs to be a leader of men who will be followed no matter what. Ratten would be a great assistant.

Roos would probably be the one as he seems to have an ability to bring everyone together.

As an aside just think of all of our premiership coaches and their "type" and think of the type of coaches that have taken sides from the bottom to the top. Look at the similarities!

Maybe see you in the states?

PS good to banter w you Doc. Atleast I know you will argue w reason.

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Don't always agree with your posts - that's OK its an opinion site

But I agree with your humourous take on selections

Injuries aside, there is something out of kilter down at Visy park - from selection to matchday intensity to denial about anything being wrong to structures

FWIW, the players look confused out on the field. We have been awful since the Ess game and haven't been able to rectify it.

For those who say they'd be happy with 6-3 prior to the season, I say, "would you have been happy with convincing losses to StK, Adel in Melbourne and the Scum as well as an unconvincing win against Freo, not to mention 3 quarters to shake off the two cellar dwellars.

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If I want your opinion, I'll give it to you!

I've removed some posts from this thread, so if yours is missing...thats what happened to it.

Lets try to keep on topic, without resorting to attacking others.

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"there’s more chance of me becoming the full forward for the [Western Bulldogs] than there is of any change in the Labor Party." Julia Gillard 18-05-2010

I wouldn't agree with that.

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That's so funny

But in the end, it's about wins and losses. For a club in our position, that's the tangible measure of success or failure. We need to win games to put ourselves in the best possible position. If we win the flag, will it matter that, along the way, it took us three quarters to shake off GWS? Essendon* can beat us twice convincingly if it means that we ultimately win the war. Of course, the losses are not pleasant and some are particularly galling, but it's about scrounging together as many wins as possible.

So while the season has not been perfect, we are 6-3 which is far from disastrous and gives us a decent platform on which to try to build.

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We shouldn't be scrounging wins - in particular against sides we are meant to be clearly better than.

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Winston Churchill

I don't necessarily mean it in the literal sense of the word - although some wins will inevitably be prettier than others. I mean it in the sense of doing all we can to win as many games as we can.

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Gold premium? Not just premium?

Thread over. Clearly the greatest supporter that ever lived. Should not only be allowed to cast the first stone, but probably second and third as well...

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BLUES 2010: PAV AND JUDD = FLAGS. DOING IT FOR THE LOVE OF DICK PRATT.

HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?

Very amusing and funny piece by Rhino.
Definetely thought provoking, and I didn't see the controversy till I read on.

The satirical piece does provoke some serious thought.
Christ, got me going for 5 mins. Especially the Judd stuff.
Good stuff actually. Cathartic.

I wont quote the seat no. as Agro did, but as far as 'those types' are concerned...mmmmm.

So what do you think we (as Carlton supporters) should do about abusive Carlton supporters at the game...in the members?
What if they were opposition supporters who were invited by a Carlton member?

Treat them the same I say, and give the abuser heaps, and encourage them to leave.
If they don't leave, be better prepared for the next battle in the stands, or toilets, or stairwell.
Get rid of them....buy 'em a Richmond membership. Whatever, just get rid of them.
They set a bad example for the Carlton kids.

Can we complain about them and hope the club does something about them?
Or is that a another laugh in this thread?

Good thread, and everone has a right to an opinion.

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Thanks.

I'd like to think if you open up the papers this morning and see a political cartoon, you don't necessarily take it as a sign of the cartoonist's political leanings. I'm happy to follow a time honoured tradition of adhering to lazy mass produced stereotypes for cheap laughs, at the expense of my own opinion on the matter. Irrespective, I'm happy to be pedantic and adopt them as my own for childish debate also.

I tend to agree re: abusive members. I really can't be bothered going to games at the moment, not just due to general dissatisfaction with the game and the way it is played at the moment, but dealing with Johnny Public for 2 hours and their quality views on football in my ear for that period just isn't worth forking over time and money toward. Having said that, those who wave around their supporter credentials over others are no better. Couldn't care less what type of membership you have, or how long you've been a supporter, or how you know this player personally. You only encourage the other type to get more feral.

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HAVE YOU SIGNED UP FOR TALKINGCARLTON SUPERCOACH 2009 YET?