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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 3:34 pm 
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Alex Jesaulenko
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Princes Park Whistler wrote:
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George Harris wrote:
A bit of straight kicking and both Richmond and Adelaide wouldn't have seemed like struggles. Same last night. Should have won by 4 goals.

Also, some composure would have meant a win not a draw against Essendon*.

Basically better kicking for goal will make us look more like a top 4 side.

More to do with our forward structures and setups in our fwd 50....if this weak link is rectified you will find our conversion rate will improve and our winning margins as well....
Agree. A lot of our goals/points come from snaps from packs and shots from the pockets.


Those bastards had 8 scoring shots in the second half kicking 7 goals 1 behind - with a fair proportion of snaps in the last quarter - their luck had to run out sooner or later. Didnt notice any Milne groin thrusting in the last quarter either.

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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:29 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Smashing teams at the clearances.
Smashing them on the tackle count.
Smashing them with pressure.
Smashing them with our will to win.
Smashing them with inside fifties.

We just need to score more when we have games under control. We are getting the shots but not capitalising. We improve with this and we are real good.

Big k playing forward / ruck and a CHB (Bower or Henda) and things will only get better also.


I generally dislike doing THIS, but in this case it seems warranted.

Collingwood game aside, we're dominating teams for large parts of the match except for on the score board. Aside from needing another genuine big forward presence, could be Sentanta or Lachie or Kruezer, we need our captain to start slotting them.

I know the logic there is not air tight, it's more of a hunch really, but I feel if Judd started kicking those goals on the run, the rest of the team would follow his example and start beating up teams on the scoreboard.

I neither agree or disagree with the following premise, it just appears that the team dynamic is that Judd leads by example and the rest of the team follows his example of how to play the game. I'm in no way suggesting we're a one man team, merely expressing how I think leadership generally works at Carlton in a vague sense.

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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 4:40 pm 
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Not really sure where the irony is?


Try the laundry. Your shirts are in the basket. And ffs can you stop leaving a mess in the kitchen after breakfast :mad:





STOP that Cee Kay........










stopitnow...........!


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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:05 pm 
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Are we hungry & ambitious like Sir James says about that mob at Napier St :?:

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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:14 pm 
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club29 wrote:
Smashing teams at the clearances.
Smashing them on the tackle count.
Smashing them with pressure.
Smashing them with our will to win.
Smashing them with inside fifties.

We just need to score more when we have games under control. We are getting the shots but not capitalising. We improve with this and we are real good.

Big k playing forward / ruck and a CHB (Bower or Henda) and things will only get better also.



So long the work rate is up, I expect the skills to improve. I believe in making you own luck. We are probably close to having that happen soon. I remember in 1995 we didn't smash every side on the score board. Our work rate was well above average and we only dropped 2 games for the entire season. Not a comparison, the 2 seasons, but we are getting the points to keep us well into the top 8. Just need that to continue and no real major injuries either. Don't need to flog every team, just win full stop. Once the close games and pressure of the finals approach we will know how to keep the control due to previous experienced games. Can't buy those experiences.

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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 9:58 pm 
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Laurie Kerr

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I'm just a bit concerned that given the 2011 version of our game plan (yes we do seem to have a game plan this year!) and the intense pressure the boys are having to withstand week after week by allowing teams to stay in the game right to the end, is going to take its toll by season's end.
Remember we are talking about a relatively young team which has a number of players who have played less than 50 games and who may not have the number of pre-seasons in them compared to other teams looking towards September.
Everyone seems to agree the bye this week is really needed but if we need a break so much already after only 7 games what does that mean when we get to the last 5 games of the season and hopefully the finals.
I suppose keeping the boys fresh is how Cordy and his team will earn their pay.


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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2011 10:00 pm 
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tracking better than we could have imagined.

game against the saints was the first game of the season we lost the tackle count ie 87 vs 75


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 Post subject: Re: How Good Are We!!!
PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 1:03 am 
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Well i think we are lot better than we were in 2010, and in turn
a lot better than we were in 2009.

Bugger, i realise such comments may suggest that Ratts is doing
a half pied decent job, which wouldnt please a few around here !

Five and a half wins from first 7, great result really, reckon last year's
team would be about 3wins and 4 losses similarly (maybe less).
Get past Geelong, then we are over "the hump" for several weeks and
in reality should put a gap between us and others in lower echelon
of the 8. unless of course we go off the rails like last year !!

Dont reckon thats going to happen this year, as they are showing
a lot of ticker this year.... which we ALL should be glad of.
All you can ask for really, the old RHG etc.

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