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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 7:57 am 
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Can anyone help poor linchy?

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:19 am 
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Nope sorry cannot be done, spud thread will always equal spud thread regardless how you dress it up.

Not one to bag people Linchy but this thread was not thought out at all.

No one will ever blame a player seeking better opportubities (Suace, Setanta, T-Bird, Walker), have not heard one negative word about them. Why? Because they all have varying degrees of integrity ... WHAT THIS CLUB IS FOUNDED ON.

Let me put it this way ... Carlton has always looked after its own, ALWAYS. Its proud history of looking after players and visa versa is fundamental to all Blues supporter's hearts.

When Grigg gave every indication he would resign, then left in the middle of the nigt like a rouge and was too guttless to stand up, be a man and leave in a way that deserved respect ... then why the f#$% should we give it to him now?

I liked him and thought that 2011 may have been a breakout year for him, that said I am glad he is outta here .... NO ROOM FOR SHMUCKS WITHOUT INTEGRITY IN MY BELOVED BLUES.

Sorry for the rant ... the guys a c$%¨and one with sand in it to boot!


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:35 am 
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Campo & Hamil are cut from the same cloth, we all despised them so much because they were great Carlton players & it hurt us all to see them leave, especially Campo going across to the Windy Hill Germs, Grigg on the other hand has given us doughnuts, sweet FA, for such a high draft pick he kicks the ball like a baseballer, no loss to the blues at all, if Punt Road think he's worth 1 mill they can have him, I'm certain the young fella Collins will do in 1 season what helicopter punter Grigg did in 4!

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 8:48 am 
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brazilbeliever wrote:
Nope sorry cannot be done, spud thread will always equal spud thread regardless how you dress it up.

Not one to bag people Linchy but this thread was not thought out at all.

No one will ever blame a player seeking better opportubities (Suace, Setanta, T-Bird, Walker), have not heard one negative word about them. Why? Because they all have varying degrees of integrity ... WHAT THIS CLUB IS FOUNDED ON.

[b]Let me put it this way ... Carlton has always looked after its own, ALWAYS. Its proud history of looking after players and visa versa is fundamental to all Blues supporter's hearts.[/b]When Grigg gave every indication he would resign, then left in the middle of the nigt like a rouge and was too guttless to stand up, be a man and leave in a way that deserved respect ... then why the f#$% should we give it to him now?

I liked him and thought that 2011 may have been a breakout year for him, that said I am glad he is outta here .... NO ROOM FOR SHMUCKS WITHOUT INTEGRITY IN MY BELOVED BLUES.

Sorry for the rant ... the guys a c$%¨and one with sand in it to boot!

Maybe you should have witnessed the Josh Kennedy breakdown when he was cleaned out like a shitty rag.


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:22 am 
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DOA wrote:
brazilbeliever wrote:
Nope sorry cannot be done, spud thread will always equal spud thread regardless how you dress it up.

Not one to bag people Linchy but this thread was not thought out at all.

No one will ever blame a player seeking better opportubities (Suace, Setanta, T-Bird, Walker), have not heard one negative word about them. Why? Because they all have varying degrees of integrity ... WHAT THIS CLUB IS FOUNDED ON.

[b]Let me put it this way ... Carlton has always looked after its own, ALWAYS. Its proud history of looking after players and visa versa is fundamental to all Blues supporter's hearts.[/b]When Grigg gave every indication he would resign, then left in the middle of the nigt like a rouge and was too guttless to stand up, be a man and leave in a way that deserved respect ... then why the f#$% should we give it to him now?

I liked him and thought that 2011 may have been a breakout year for him, that said I am glad he is outta here .... NO ROOM FOR SHMUCKS WITHOUT INTEGRITY IN MY BELOVED BLUES.

Sorry for the rant ... the guys a c$%¨and one with sand in it to boot!

Maybe you should have witnessed the Josh Kennedy breakdown when he was cleaned out like a shitty rag.


Geez DOA...you love having a dig at this club. Really low stuff.

You have stated on CSC that you only comment on that forum. Why the change of heart?

Didn't you also say (here at TC) in the preseason that Carlton can't make the finals without Fev.
Didn't you also criticise the club for ridding itself of Fev.
Didn't you say...you say a lot of things you shouldn't.

I told you we'd make the finals because we have Walker playing for us.
Did you see him kick 3 in the Elimination?
Tex is a wanted player... I wonder why he'd be looking at new pastures?
Wouldn't have anything to do with your opinion on Carlton?

Here's your opportunity to have another dig at the club relatin to the underlined comment and with reference to your mate Fev and the club's treatment of Fev.
But nah, bring out an awful situation like the Kennedy one which everybody understood, including Kennedy.

You really are messy with your facts. Kennedy was contracted and didn't HAVE to leave. He knew the situation. He acted. There wasn't much choice for anyone with that deal. Remember?
We're all upset over that situation. He wasn't kicked out or cleaned out. He was embraced, hugged and tears were shed from many Carltonians, including Kennedy: players, admin and supporters. A far cry from your suggestion.
Kennedy is still considered and treated as one of our own.

But you prefer to use language like "shitty rag" to denegrate my club....which is so far from the truth.
I wouldn't mind it if that comment came from the opposition supporters as general banter, but to come from a players' father.....OMG.


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 9:27 am 
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bondi:

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 10:19 am 
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The post from DOA is telling me that Walker is going. How could he harbour an attitude like that of the club his son plays for? And, if he actually dos have that attitude toward Carlton, what is it based on? We've stood by Andy Walker his entire career, through every injury etc etc.

Bizarro world - or he knows what's coming.

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 12:28 pm 
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Wild Blue Yonder wrote:
The post from DOA is telling me that Walker is going. How could he harbour an attitude like that of the club his son plays for? And, if he actually dos have that attitude toward Carlton, what is it based on? We've stood by Andy Walker his entire career, through every injury etc etc.

Bizarro world - or he knows what's coming.


DOA made disparaging comments about our great footy club before the 2010 season started, prior to his son's 2nd year of a 3 year contract, which was our long awaited return of our long lost son's return to the field after injury and a big presason.

No doubt where DOA gets his inside information from, but to actually leak sensitive information to internet forums....mmmm....he obviously doesn't get it.

Whilst I'd love to keep Tex in our first 22 (when he's in form), I certainly can do without the likes of DOA circling around my footy club like a hungry shark...waiting for the kill.

Lets not forget that Tex has got more value out of CFC than the other way around, so I don't know where all this bitterness comes from.
I wonder if DOA and maybe Tex realise that no one is offering us pick 2 in the draft which is what he cost us.
What does that tell everyone? No need for comments on this....it's just a reality check for the Walkers.

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 1:01 pm 
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Interestingly Petroro said he and Walks had sat down with Ratten and talked through both party's views to resolve differences. I hope his father can get on the same page and let Andy get on with producing his best football. I for one am rapt that he is still with us - his potential is there, he is young etc.

Hope he has a blinder.

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:00 pm 
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Personally I am glad Walker stayed. I reckon with a full pre-season and a little belief he can make a huge impact. I have liked of what I have seen from him and would like to see a lot more. Walker is the sort of player who when he turns it on wins games when they need to be won. Like that in a player

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 2:02 pm 
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I'm glad to hear that Ratts and Walker sat down and worked things out. Whatever your differences may be with your coach, they can be settled like adults.

Grigg and Thornton on the other hand.

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:15 pm 
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dane wrote:
Can anyone help poor linchy?



it is ok mate, I will live. :wink:

Just weird that we are fed all this media drivel about Grigg,, Walks etc, Walks stays so he is a legend, Grigg goes and is a prick.

Walker needs a huge year, injury free. He can play mid or forward, thats where he wants to be. I would hate to see him in other colours, but if he went, it seems ok to the majority of you. Strange guys.....


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Mon Oct 11, 2010 6:49 pm 
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grigg turned his back on the navy blue for reasons he only knows(money? sooking because he didnt get enough games?)in the end he left he didnt respect or value the jumper so flower him no respect from me.as for walker if doesnt sign for longer then he still doesnt want to be there and if his heart isnt in it then thats enough to pull us down you need 22 comitted 100% each and every week that little bit he doesnt give might be the differnece and dont confuse him busting his gut for himself as opposed to busting for the team.in my opinion if you want to go you cant have your heart in it


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 9:42 am 
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boys and girls :)

grigg will get his 'respect' round 1

50,000 carlton supporters "boo-ing" him and hurling abuse

and his new team getting thumped ... again ... by a superior outfit

i look forward to it

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:35 am 
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Ironically, anyone who would voluntarily leave a club like Carlton for a prennial rabble like Richmond clearly has no respect for themself - so how can he expect respct from others.

As for Walker, despite his kicking and tackling deficiencies he is a top-drawer player and I am glad we retained him.


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 10:55 am 
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Any players remaining who are upset at Fev being let go – go join him at the Brions!

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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:22 am 
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The thing is if it happened in reverse the player would be accepted with open arms...lol!


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:35 am 
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DOA wrote:
brazilbeliever wrote:
Nope sorry cannot be done, spud thread will always equal spud thread regardless how you dress it up.

Not one to bag people Linchy but this thread was not thought out at all.

No one will ever blame a player seeking better opportubities (Suace, Setanta, T-Bird, Walker), have not heard one negative word about them. Why? Because they all have varying degrees of integrity ... WHAT THIS CLUB IS FOUNDED ON.

[b]Let me put it this way ... Carlton has always looked after its own, ALWAYS. Its proud history of looking after players and visa versa is fundamental to all Blues supporter's hearts.[/b]When Grigg gave every indication he would resign, then left in the middle of the nigt like a rouge and was too guttless to stand up, be a man and leave in a way that deserved respect ... then why the f#$% should we give it to him now?

I liked him and thought that 2011 may have been a breakout year for him, that said I am glad he is outta here .... NO ROOM FOR SHMUCKS WITHOUT INTEGRITY IN MY BELOVED BLUES.

Sorry for the rant ... the guys a c$%¨and one with sand in it to boot!

Maybe you should have witnessed the Josh Kennedy breakdown when he was cleaned out like a shitty rag.


you can see where Walks gets his smarts from


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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Tue Oct 12, 2010 11:10 pm 
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But you prefer to use language like "shitty rag" to denegrate my club....which is so far from the truth.
I wouldn't mind it if that comment came from the opposition supporters as general banter, but to come from a players' father.....OMG.
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 Post subject: Re: Respect
PostPosted: Wed Oct 13, 2010 7:01 am 
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I dont always agree with DOA but I can understand his thought processes here. The Josh Kennedy situation exposed the realities of modern football to the players in the most graphic of situations. A young kid who absolutely loved the club was thrown out the door for something percieved better. Yes he was contracted and yes he could have stayed but he was left with no impression other than they wanted to see the back of him.

We all want players to give absolute commitment to the jumper and to show loyalty. We want them to risk their well being by attacking the contest without fear. Yet 3 years ago we clearly demonstrated that if something better comes along, we'll ship you off to somewhere you're not interested in going.

Malthouse stated years ago that he wouldn't trade Didak to Port because moves like that destroy the fabric of your club. In this case, he's spot on.
Our playing group were exposed to a ruthlessness and calculated action that changed the way a lot of them view the game. Dont blame them and their parents for feeling it's only a meat market. We created the environment that has perpetuated that feeling.

I'm not saying the Judd deal was wrong but we made decisions in that trade that will have long term impacts for how the playing group and their families view the CFC and the game in general. This wasn't a used car that we discarded. It was a young kid that we dragged across the country. We had a duty of care to him and his family to treat him with fairness and compassion. We failed miserably IMO.

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