The game is almost at the stage where it requires to head coaches

one who coaches from the side lines and the other from the coaches box

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maybe the club is losing its religion?

ok I have to edit this now that 2 threads have been merged.
the original thread title was 'Consider This'...so now hopefully my weird little line there makes more sense.
(that's me in the corner..with dean laidley)

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This would be one of a range of possible changes to the playing list and coaching staff. As stated by the Big Kahuna Ratts problem is his tactical knowledge and one thing Laidley has demonstrated is the ability to come up with a range of tactics to get over the oppositions strengths. They may have been borne of necessity but with undermanned teams he has done very well to come up with something outside the square to give them a chance to win. From a supporters view iIt would be nice to be able to win a game even if we didn't win the first quarter and to come up with some different options to overcome some teams which have had the wood on us the last few years. If we are going to move from a team with potential to a consistently good side we need to make some changes to our coaches.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx?

Article states that Laidley is keen to relocate back to Melbourne for family reasons, no mention of Carlton though.

Drawing a long bow?

Harvs is a ripper bloke, know him personally. Would be amazed if the young kids can't relate to him/admire him/respect him.

Laidley hardly seems renowned for his inter-personal skills.

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Yeah, but he looks like Skelator.

Kids can relate to Skelator.

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STURDYISM!!

Can we please put all the Laidley to Blues speculation in one thread please.

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No thanks - not another ex north coach with bad hair

plus - he is a tool

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This subject has been raised in another thread and to glowing endorsement from most of the pro and anti-Ratten crowd. My own view is that when this was first raised at the club in 2009, Ratten was reluctant given the matchday role he already had going with close friend Craig Bradley. I would suggest if a role is going and Laidley is approached, Bradley's role will be diminished somewhat to midfield assistant.

Remember that Braddles is part-time only, and comes cheap. Bradley is an astute coach and has an innate understanding of the game. He's also very valuable during the pre-season to the young midfielders and his work with Justin Cordy will eventually reap rewards with players such as Robinson, Gibbs, Ellard and Yarran.

Should Laidley come in - you'd think the roles of Bradley and/or Brett Munro (Opposition Coach) would change.

Unless we sent him away for a season of growth and development, we weren't interested a year ago so its hard to imagine we would be now.

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If it's not Laids, then the club should try and suss out the services of Wayne Brittain once again. I'm in no way having a crack at our coaching staff, in fact I will defend them when most call for their head. But enquiring about tactical personnel when it's available does no harm IMO. I'm in full support of Ratten to remain as head coach though.

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"GIBBS."

His match day genius has played a large role in Port's awesome season this year. I say we have to get him.

Streuth yer letz in-quire about laydley

Can you have too many good men at the 1 club ?

And even if his role changes....is it a bad thing ?

Laidley would not bring anything wow to the table IMO....

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Ratts would be a fool to retain the status quo of his little kingdom. He appears a very average match day coach to me which is Laidleys strength. As someone else has mentioned, you cant have too many valuable contributors.
With regard to Bradley, he may be cheap but we're past appreciating that as a valid criteria. If he's value as a tactician, utilise him to complement a quality, full time appointment.


If Ratts feels threatened by someone like Laidley, it only confirms that he doesn't have the confidence in his own ability. Surrounding yourself with quality football people in the appropriate roles is the fastest way to achieve results.

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I would have loved to have seen Craig Bradley as coach!
A real pity he didnt want to coach those last remaining games when Pagan got moved on

I seem to remember many coaches nominating Laidley as one of the toughest match day opponents they faced. This was around the time his position was coming under scrutiny at the Roos, and the whole 'marketing vs tactical nous' debate was in full fury.

I will defer to others on our existing structure, but I have have seen or heard nothing to suggest we are best in class in tactical/preparation. If that is in fact the case, we'd be silly not to give strong consideration to bringing him in.

Part time and cheap don't go with the way the game is heading. Bradley's role should be full time and clearly defined and to me it looks like he is part time coaching and part time development. I don't mind having part timers at the club but I don't think you should have part timers in key roles at a footy club. If he is the right hand man to the coach on match day which I consider a key role then it should be full time.
Laidley should be looked at along with a host of others. From the outside looking in some assistants have had enough time at our club and if they are fair dinkum about coaching as a career path it would be in their best interests to seek employment elsewhere.