Absolutely right.

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Not quite on topic, but I think Geoff Southby is under-represented in the Premierships department.

Played in two (72, 79) but got injured late in the season in both 81 and 82. Really should be a four-time Premiership player. Certainly his standing in the game would be deserving of that accolade.

Hickey

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Steve Da Rui
Ross Ditchburn
Rodney Galt

My starting spot was the Team of the Century thanks to a suggestion from tcblue:

http://www.blueseum.org/tiki-index.php? ... he+Century

OK, so in this team of legends we have the following premiership mix (including emergencies):

4: Jezza, Doull, McGregor
3: Dominator, Crane, Nicholls, Gallagher, Walls, Fitzpatrick, Hunter
2: SOS, Southby, Deacon, Bradley, Kernahan, Hands, Ashman, Serge, Keogh, Chitty
1: Diesel, Vallence
Nil: Comben, James, Kerr, Clover

Question - does premiership success fairly or unfairly cloud the determination of the 'greats'? Taking our 4 greats without flags, and looking through their records, there is a strong argument IMHO that Clover should have been in that team, probably at least at Walls' expense.

On the flipside, if premiership success was the key to this then they may have include Charlie Hammond who I think played in 5 flags (a good trivia question).


So these 4 greats give me a good place to start for best blues who happen to be flagless.

All great names from an era of little team success, but of many strong performers. Other than James & Collis's Brownlow, and Turkey Tom's Coleman, is there anything in the career of the other named gentlemen to compare?

We currently have a list of past great flagless Blues for consideration:
Clover
James
Collis
Kerr (L)
Whitnall
Fevola
Carroll
Blackwell
Wells (J)
Comben
Davey
Lappin

Any other of our 1950's stalwarts worthy of addition here?

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Some other 1950 greats:

Doug Beasy (17)- great rover - Vic Rep 1955 &1957

Graham Donalson (13)- Captain in 1962 losing GF. Vic rep 1959 & 1960

John Benetti (8) Cousin of Serge Silvagni- Vic rep 1963 (I think it was a seconds team that played Tasmania) John also built the scoreboard where the legends stand was built. This was a "modern board" not like the previous one which had metal numbers that had to be changed by hand

Other good players I can remember from that era: Jack Mills, Gerald Burke who became an administrator of the club in the Harris era,Graham Gilchrist, Brian Buckley, Kevin Clarke,Don Nicholls (we only got his brother John because of Don) Chris Pavlou(later admin ) John Heatcote(I recall Ken Boyd knocking his head off) Leo Brereton

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