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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:06 pm 
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I agree, we are the navy blues and that that's what we should wear on the park. Some doofus in some hierarchy has definetly stuffed up that one.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:13 pm 
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It is a funny one. Just like Rexy I'm not sure what the rules are regarding when and where they should be worn. Lots of mixed messages. I'm still not sure about what the real story is with the Pies and North deal?

We are nowhere near as bad as the EPL. Clubs are shameless in coming out with new clash strips pretty much every season to milk a buck.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 7:43 pm 
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He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:08 pm 
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get rid of the hacks wrote:
A lot of fans have trouble with distinguishing similar strips from a distance.
Aussie rules cries for adhering to "traditional" jumpers in this case is stuck in the dark ages.

Soccer clubs globally have embraced "away" strips, and have made a lot of $ selling additional merchandise b'coz of this.


That's a real cop-out argument.

I don't remember there being an issue in the 70s with mudpuddle matches at the black mud of the MCG, or with Black and white TV.

And the Soccer argument is hollow, because of a number of factors, not least that so many clubs have plain colour jumpers, and clashes are inevitable.

The fact that we are the ONLY club whose name is a colour. We are the BLUES. That, for mine, makes our demand to wear BLUE special. Why is it we have to change our jumper, when Collingwood, who have changed their jumper many times since the 80s, and claim they never change, aren't made to adopt a " clash" jumper?

If one team isn't made to, none should. If there are "away" jumper rules then EVERY club MUST be made to have a genuine away jumper.

Personally, I'd much rather see us go back to our original history and adopt an orange jumper with navy blue monogram and blue stripe down the sides (remember, Carlton worse orange hats way back when, with a blue hoop, which was the origin of us becoming the "Carlton Blues"). Makes much more of a statement than the crap white ones.

They would look similar, but a deeper shade, than the Livestrong jumpers we wore last year.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:20 pm 
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Onya Kaptain.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

He (Mr Swann) said the honour and pride associated with the club's traditional navy blue jumper was priceless.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:22 pm 
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bluedog wrote:
Onya Kaptain.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:46 pm 
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Our away strip is fine. I like that is basicallythe same as the regular one, just in reverse. The CFC emblem is in navy which i like.
At the end of the day its a hell of a lot better than the majority of away strips out there which are not even recognisable as the club they are

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:49 pm 
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What really annoys me though is that the Roos have to wear their away strip in home games against the filth..
So blatantly unfair yet allowed to happen. If I was the Kangaroos I would threaten to boycott the game.
I know it seems trivial but it's the principle behind it.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 8:55 pm 
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Its allowed to happen because the AFL aka the Filth allow the Roos to play a home game against the Filth.

It's called extortion but hey, we're all friends here jake.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:18 pm 
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Best and classiest away strip in the AFL. If I could improve it slightly, maybe a silvery grey instead of white. Otherwise, the contrast is exactly what an away strip should look like. The monogram could be made 10% larger as it appears smaller against a light background....optical illusion.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:31 pm 
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I love the white jumper but it annoys me that other clubs have changed their Jumpers ( West Coast and Melbourne and Even Geelong ) to a Navy Blue.

These clubs were all a Royal Blue and now they have changed to Navy we have to wear our away strip.. :donk:

Port and Freo have changed their jumpers aswel to more like ours so we pay the price..


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:42 pm 
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hubba wrote:
I love the white jumper but it annoys me that other clubs have changed their Jumpers ( West Coast and Melbourne and Even Geelong ) to a Navy Blue.

These clubs were all a Royal Blue and now they have changed to Navy we have to wear our away strip.. :donk:

Port and Freo have changed their jumpers aswel to more like ours so we pay the price..



Good points.

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Until each team plays each other the same number of times, the AFL, as a fair dinkum competition, cannot be taken seriously.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:45 pm 
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hubba wrote:
I love the white jumper but it annoys me that other clubs have changed their Jumpers ( West Coast and Melbourne and Even Geelong ) to a Navy Blue.

These clubs were all a Royal Blue and now they have changed to Navy we have to wear our away strip.. :donk:

Port and Freo have changed their jumpers aswel to more like ours so we pay the price..


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flowering joke. :mad:


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:49 pm 
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hubba wrote:
I love the white jumper but it annoys me that other clubs have changed their Jumpers ( West Coast and Melbourne and Even Geelong ) to a Navy Blue.

These clubs were all a Royal Blue and now they have changed to Navy we have to wear our away strip.. :donk:

Port and Freo have changed their jumpers aswel to more like ours so we pay the price..


I agree, except that Geelong has always been navy blue hoops.

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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:51 pm 
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As an aside, CFC merchandise revenue for 2009 was just over $1.5m.[/quote]



Merchandise revenue works differently in Oz compared to the EPL, NBA etc.

The licensee/wholesaler pays the AFL a 20% rebate on its sales, so a lot of the revenue goes to the AFL first, and is distributed to AFL clubs and football development by the AFL.

This also creates some degree of "equalisation" of merchandise revenue between the more and less popular clubs.


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 9:58 pm 
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Kaptain Kouta wrote:
get rid of the hacks wrote:
A lot of fans have trouble with distinguishing similar strips from a distance.
Aussie rules cries for adhering to "traditional" jumpers in this case is stuck in the dark ages.

Soccer clubs globally have embraced "away" strips, and have made a lot of $ selling additional merchandise b'coz of this.


That's a real cop-out argument.

I don't remember there being an issue in the 70s with mudpuddle matches at the black mud of the MCG, or with Black and white TV.

And the Soccer argument is hollow, because of a number of factors, not least that so many clubs have plain colour jumpers, and clashes are inevitable.

The fact that we are the ONLY club whose name is a colour. We are the BLUES. That, for mine, makes our demand to wear BLUE special. Why is it we have to change our jumper, when Collingwood, who have changed their jumper many times since the 80s, and claim they never change, aren't made to adopt a " clash" jumper?

If one team isn't made to, none should. If there are "away" jumper rules then EVERY club MUST be made to have a genuine away jumper.

Personally, I'd much rather see us go back to our original history and adopt an orange jumper with navy blue monogram and blue stripe down the sides (remember, Carlton worse orange hats way back when, with a blue hoop, which was the origin of us becoming the "Carlton Blues"). Makes much more of a statement than the crap white ones.

They would look similar, but a deeper shade, than the Livestrong jumpers we wore last year.


So you don't have problem with the colours....good for you !!!

others on here have already admitted they do........sprouting crap about tradition is the cop out.

But some of us feel progress is a good thing, even if it breaks traditions.

If one club needs a clash jumper they all should ?
This is about gurnsey clashes for the benefit of supporters and players, not inter club politics.

We have ppl without perfect eyesight that also want to watch and enjoy footy (elderly supporters included )......that's no cop out, just reality.

Oh....and the arguement re soccer not have insignias obviously reeks of a lack of thought if not intelligence. As I mentioned a lot of the problems occur identifying players with their backs to you. Please enlighten me, which clubs have insignias on the back of their jumpers?

And the argument that being called the "Blues" gives us clash jumper priority.....well congratulations for being almost as funny as Carl Baron with his fart jokes.

And then you go on to suggest orange would be better than the inverted navy/white (while we are still called the blues)....well that is your opinion, but obviously the club feels otherwise....guess what....I back the club to make a better and more researched decision !!!


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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2010 10:00 pm 
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hubba wrote:
Port and Freo have changed their jumpers aswel to more like ours so we pay the price..


And in the Port game, it appeared some of our players saw a few "dark" jumpers around the contest and didn't go it. It must be difficult being used to seeing the dark navy jumper with the white number and knowing it was our players going for the ball to have to wear white and the other team to almost look exactly the same as our normal jumper from behind.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 12:45 pm 
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99prelim wrote:
Best and classiest away strip in the AFL. If I could improve it slightly, maybe a silvery grey instead of white. Otherwise, the contrast is exactly what an away strip should look like. The monogram could be made 10% larger as it appears smaller against a light background....optical illusion.



I agree with you 99prelim.

But I think the CFC emblem needs to be more like 20% larger even on the Navy Blue strip.

I don't mind the white, but the yellow we wore in that Freo game last year was OK too.

Maybe we could wear the yellow strip against clubs whose jumpers include white (Geelong, Nth, Saints).

I don't mind what we wear... as long as we keep winning.

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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 1:24 pm 
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get rid of the hacks wrote:
Kaptain Kouta wrote:
get rid of the hacks wrote:
A lot of fans have trouble with distinguishing similar strips from a distance.
Aussie rules cries for adhering to "traditional" jumpers in this case is stuck in the dark ages.

Soccer clubs globally have embraced "away" strips, and have made a lot of $ selling additional merchandise b'coz of this.


That's a real cop-out argument.

I don't remember there being an issue in the 70s with mudpuddle matches at the black mud of the MCG, or with Black and white TV.

And the Soccer argument is hollow, because of a number of factors, not least that so many clubs have plain colour jumpers, and clashes are inevitable.

The fact that we are the ONLY club whose name is a colour. We are the BLUES. That, for mine, makes our demand to wear BLUE special. Why is it we have to change our jumper, when Collingwood, who have changed their jumper many times since the 80s, and claim they never change, aren't made to adopt a " clash" jumper?

If one team isn't made to, none should. If there are "away" jumper rules then EVERY club MUST be made to have a genuine away jumper.

Personally, I'd much rather see us go back to our original history and adopt an orange jumper with navy blue monogram and blue stripe down the sides (remember, Carlton worse orange hats way back when, with a blue hoop, which was the origin of us becoming the "Carlton Blues"). Makes much more of a statement than the crap white ones.

They would look similar, but a deeper shade, than the Livestrong jumpers we wore last year.


So you don't have problem with the colours....good for you !!!

others on here have already admitted they do........sprouting crap about tradition is the cop out.
Your great grandpa used to shit in the woods, there is a tradition for you to follow.His grandpa ate kangaroo testicles.....go enjoy another wonderful family tradition.

But some of us feel progress is a good thing, even if it breaks traditions.

If one club needs a clash jumper they all should ?....are you in kindergarten ?
This is about gurnsey clashes for the benefit of supporters and players, not inter club politics.

We have ppl without perfect eyesight that also want to watch and enjoy footy (elderly supporters included )......that's no cop out, just reality.

Oh....and the arguement re soccer not have insignias obviously reeks of a lack of thought if not intelligence. As I mentioned a lot of the problems occur identifying players with their backs to you. Please enlighten me kaptain kooties, which clubs have insignias on the back of their jumpers?

And the argument that being called the "Blues" gives us clash jumper priority.....well congratulations for being almost as funny as Carl Baron with his fart jokes.

And then you go on to suggest orange would be better than the inverted navy/white (while we are still called the blues)....well that is your opinion, but obviously the club feels otherwise....guess what....I back the club to make a better and more researched decision !!!


You've already edited your post twice. If you go back for a third crack, maybe you could chop out the personal jibes, and try to argue the point.


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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2010 5:01 pm 
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I think that this argument is rather amusing and can see both the traditonalists' and progressives' perspective.

There is/was a need for clash jumpers, especially in the 60's and 70's when Collingwood played North or Richmond play Essendon* and watching it on the old B&W tele. When we got a colour tele for me the problem went away.

We have played in a sky blue m&m jumper, we have played in yellow and we would probably play in pink if the money or cause was right.

Carlton is more than kjust the jumper, more than just the players. If the club want to play in skins with players tattooing the emblem on their chests and numbers on their backs I'd be fine with that too.

I love that we now have the overview to talk about such matters, it means that the club is finally travelling well on the field.

Carn the blues (whites, yellows, reds... or whatever other colour we choose to don)

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