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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:12 am 
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Mike Fitzpatrick
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Pros:

- THANK GOD we can cross StKilda of the list!
- JUDD, brilliant leadership
- RUSSELL, think he's feeling comfortable enough to bring his own style to his game!
- SETANTA, is just so valuable up forward! Crashes packs, creates a target up forward and is awesome one-on-one!
- BOTH 2009 GRAND FINALISTS, beaten........ crossed off our list.
- SCOTLAND seems to have lifted a level????
- The BROTHERS! - I Told you ALL! I TOLD YOU ALL that these three could play in the same team! As can Kreuzer / Jacobs and Warnock!!!!!!



Cons:-

Dont wanna talk about cons tonight. Apart from the fact that we still play that "Hold up the ball and kick backwards" crap!................. It aint gonna win us a premiership! So why do it?

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:17 am 
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Sauce - thought he gave us a lot more tonight.
Thought CJ started poorly but worked himself into the game and contributed.
AJ's game on Milne

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 12:55 am 
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Pros: There were heaps of them but I'd focus on the coaching tonight:
1. Picked out the right players to target - Fisher, Dal Santo - and gave Hoops and Carrots the job.
2. Isolated other players in the St K defence that really battle 1-on-1 (e.g. Gilbert) and exploited their tendency to drift off players. Waite killed Gilbert in the 1st quarter and Yazz got one on him in the 2nd as well.
3. Are now really setting up to profit from the speed that the Brothers bring to the team - how good is it to see the kicks over the top and watch the boys lead the chase back? Exciting stuff that leaves a smile on the face.

Cons:
Some of the disposal in our defence was pretty loose - obviously overshadowed by the positives but we gave up some pretty easy goals.

Of the players that came in, Thornton's disposal was a little jittery - don't think he'll hold his spot with players to return - similar story for Johnson although I thought his attack on the ball was pretty good.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 1:07 am 
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pro- Raph Clarke isnt playing for us



Yes he was :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 2:51 am 
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PROS

First time in about a decade I have pissed myself laughing watching the footy. We made St Kilda look inept, clumsy and clueless at times and it was sooooo much fun!
The understanding between players - not just the Indigenous boys but they are really showing signs of gelling as a team.
Some of the goals we score are just so exhilarating.
Eddie Betts - was a little worried that he had lost a bit of his magic but today I thought was the best he's ever played for us.
Jefferey Garlett - I just love everything about this kid - phenomenal workrate and just gives you goosebumps with some of the stuff he does.
Setanta - he is the 1%er personified - don't care how many he kicks - he crashes packs, makes a contest and keeps the ball in our forward 50 and has 2nd, 3rd & 4th efforts at every contest
Pressure, pressure, pressure!

CONS

Chipping it around the backline for the last 5 minutes of every quarter - when you are reaming the other team why not keep on pressing and break their spirit with a few late goals? Instead we chip around until we stuff up, giving them an easy goal and a glimmer of hope.

NOT SURE IF PRO OR CON
The umpiring - although they got more frees than us I thought we got a pretty good deal from them and despite some very tough tackling by both sides they largely allowed the game to flow.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 5:33 am 
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Favorite bit...........

Gartlett to Sentanta to Gartlett.......goal.........!


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:08 am 
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redskins wrote:
pro- Raph Clarke isnt playing for us


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:38 am 
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Good team performance - AJ was putting his head over the ball and winning it in contested situations. Hooray keep it up!

Cons - over confidence and complacency in the dressing room after the match.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 7:59 am 
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Pros:
Agree with most other posts but will add:

It is an exciting style of play that makes it more enjoyable to watch
Lots of improvement still
Bower, Grigg, Walker, Hampson, Austin to still fit into that side!

Cons:

Thornton looked lost and was actually dragged a couple of times!

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:00 am 
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blue4 wrote:
Cons - over confidence and complacency in the dressing room after the match.


I'm curious as to how you make that judgement.

I would have thought it's a fair thing to act a little cocky after smashing one of the teams everyone describes as the competition pacesetters.

I'd be worried if the were acting complacent and over confident in the rooms before the next match.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:02 am 
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I guess you have never played sports. So you wouldn't know.


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:06 am 
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Good response by Ratts -- lethargic complacency in the dressing room after the match was worrying.

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/ ... fault.aspx


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:19 am 
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Lethargic complacency. :lol:
If talking shit was an Olympic event, you'd be the Carl Lewis of TC, Blue4.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:21 am 
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blue4 wrote:
... lethargic complacency in the dressing room after the match was worrying.


Can you please clarify what you are talking about specifically?


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:23 am 
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blue4 wrote:
I guess you have never played sports. So you wouldn't know.


What a ridiculous statement.

Maybe you'll realise that one day.

You do yourself no favours making stupid comments like that, and still haven't answered my question.

And what the F^&* is "Lethargic complacency"? :? :?

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:37 am 
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Pro -

To win like the blues - now that's what I call football. :thumbsup:

Con -

To win like the aints - yuck.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:41 am 
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blue4 wrote:
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/94018/default.aspx


Poor article.

I fail to see why the loss to Collingwood was such a worrying thing on Ratten's mind, given they're far better than we thought they would be. For mine, the Essendon* loss is the worrying one.

Maybe they were "lethargically complacent™" that night.

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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:48 am 
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Many years since I have enjoyed a game more.

Pro
Juddy set the tone early with awesome clearances
Waite looking confident - the marking target he provided has been the missing element in the fwd line
Carlos playing role perfectly - hard to beat
Garlett Yarran Betts - excitement machines! Terrifying for opp defense.
Moving ball on quickly into forward line.
Carrots and Houps - I was starting to wonder if they were still in best 22 - very very good, disciplined, self sacrificing, team oriented games from these two senior players
Our midfield clearances.
Lucas!

Cons
Johnson - not at this level

I can't get the grin off my face!


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 8:57 am 
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Pro

The whole team ... all of them, including COACH.

Cons

None ... absolutely none .

Yay baby. :grin:


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PostPosted: Tue May 11, 2010 9:07 am 
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Mike Fitzpatrick

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Pro:
-Carotts and Houlihan disciplined roles on key playmakers,
-Russell exceptional in the back half, his next challenge will be to cope with taggers because it is coming,
-The club, coaches and players putting their balls on the line on National TV highlighting the lack of midfield defensive pressure against Collingwood and aiming to rectify it against the best defensive unit in the AFL
Cons:
None


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