ah that's why Roos coaching the way he does, he doesn't want the players to think in case they misunderstand what he is on about

so winning clearances, tackling, winning contested ball - that's a player's skill, but kicking out of bounds nine times, missing easy set shots on goal, missing leading targets, etc - that's the coaches fault.

We really really need to sack the skills coach. Can anybody confirm this is Craig Bradley?

Clearly our skills aren't up to scratch... somebody needs to be held accountable. The proof is in the pudding right here!!

Somebody needs to be sacked over this disgraceful effort. Drop a few players and if Ratten is not sacked... get rid of Craig.

I dont know my role so Im just going to kick the ball OOF



Thats gold!!

a combination with

experience, strength, fitness, niggles, what happened at home that week, digestion, the light, which way the wind is blowing, flu, new boots, the surface, etc etc etc.

Always a little ray of


when you visit TC

Regards Cazzesman

So you've never made a silly mistake when mentally pressured/confused or caught in two minds?

I recall it was you a couple of days ago, who, when asked about Ratts on this forum, said something to the effect of, "I can see Brett Ratten standing on the dais with our 17th cup" Now, if you go back and read some of your own posts of the last 24 hours or so, you have changed that tune to something like, "All this hysteria about sacking Ratten. Let's wait till the end of the year and see how it all unfolds bla bla bla"

Did the pressure of seeing your mate screw up again on Saturday night cause you to make that outlandish comment?
Or are you just tinkering with your opinion/position on this topic.

BTW. lets clear something up. Look through all of my posts and you will see that I have never said I want Ratten sacked now. I'm pissed off with Sat night like most of us, I don't believe he will take us forward but I have always said that he must be given 2010 to prove himself. We are all so desperate for premiership 17, that I would love to be proven wrong. I just don't think I will be

Yes, those things that all those 15 other clubs above us on the efficiency ladder have to deal with as well.

but only Carlton deal with lack of confidence brought about by a confusing coach.

Hello all. This my first post and I decided to about a thing that annoys me. This article is written as Stats Confidential, and while I accept we have terrible kicking efficiency this article does bend the stats to prove a point. The line if you take out the Richmond game we are 15 in kicking efficiency, when he takes out our Richmond game is he taking all other teams round 1 game? Is he taking out all other teams games against Richmond? I think if you are going to write a stats based article it should be the stats, not the stats bent to make the writers point seem more justified.

Welcome Latrobeblue.

The Stats Confidential is just like the TC you know and love. Neither lets the stats/facts get in the way of a good story. Just design every 'opinion' you have is if it were an umitigated fact and you'll fit right in.

Regards Cazzesman

What the stats say is he has the cattle on the field. Turnovers and errors are just a part of the human trait of making a mistake. We all make them. My point is that
1) Hellas Blue is right on the mark. You will make more mistakes from stagnant play rather than a more urgent play. There are lots of reasons, too much time to think, losing instictiveness, your momentum and that of the person you are passing to, having your opponent halfway up your backside because you've given him the time to man up, and the perceived pressure that comes with that. Running into space camouflages turnovers cause if the target isn't perfect, you may have 1-3 seconds to collect the ball. Think about it. If Thornton passes to Simpson on a wing and misses him by 5-10 metres, and there's no one within cooey of him, Simpson, by the very fact that he is in motion will probably pick up the ball in a couple of seconds and the crowd won't care as much that Thornton missed the target in the first place.
2) Turnovers and errors can also be influenced by the mental state of the player. If there is any confusion about the message coming from above or the script that needs to be followed, players are much less forthright and much more anxious with their decision making

I don't know if the players are confused or not, or if that dreaded 'gameplan' comes into question. I'm happy to admit, I don't know. What I do know is that we have been beaten consistently by at least 4 four teams in Ratten's tenure. That is a worry. Another worry is that I have now heard from two different sources in the newspaper over the last 12 months that there is a perception that Ratten's structures are disorganised, and that two senior players last year were cautioned/punished for mouthing off to other players that Ratten's message was confusing and constantly changing. Yes it's just the media, but sometimes you have sit up and listen

Good post...surely there is not a great difference in skill level between our list and other mid table teams...the turnovers come from negative reactive plays....why is it when we play direct reckless abandon footy that our skills suddenly improve??? It is all about confidence and this confidence is instilled via confidence in the coach and in the methods and plays being used...

We are greatly lacking direction at the moment and this stifles player confidence and errors occur because of it. The players mindsets are not right...they need to be encouraged to back themselves at all costs and play instinct footy....this is a good place to start and once team confidence rises then you can tweak all you want....

You cant link simple errors like kicking OFF to being confused about your role and pin that back on the coach.

Please provide a link to any post I've made saying wait til the end of the year. I'd be amazed if you can. Might have been KK who said that

Trying to turn the attention on me after I caught you out saying something dumb?